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I interviewed for two openings almost in parallel. One offer, let's call it Job-A is much better for my career than (let's call it) Job-B. I have been offered Job-B and the employer is waiting for me to sign the offer letter.

It has been 1.5 weeks since the final on-site interview for Job-A. The hiring manager emailed me a week later and said that they are going through the internal process and that all he can advise is not to accept any other job offers. He is aware that I'm interviewing for other opportunities, that I have other job offers as well as the expiry dates. While he is responsive to my emails, he is not confirming that he will be extending an offer. He is expecting me to let other offers expire. Job-B expires tomorrow.

It is possible that paperwork is taking longer than expected and that he genuinely wants to extend the offer but is stuck. It is a multi-billion dollar finance company with lot of red-tape and he is new to this company. Also, during the interview process I could see that communication isn't his strong skill.

However, I do not feel comfortable passing up an offer on the table based on his "advice" not to accept other offers. Worst case, he might be interviewing other candidates, or be waiting for the other offers to expire so I cannot negotiate because I have made it clear to him that Job-A is my first preference. It sounds horrible and probably only 10% do this, but it isn't illegal. I don't personally know the guy so I have no reason to trust him. Once again, this position is a great opportunity in terms of what it can do for my career but I have a general distrust of people in senior management positions in corporate world - nothing specific about him, or the company.

Since I will be reporting to him, I want to make sure that we do not start on the wrong note. How do I tell him that his "advice" is not enough to pass up an offer? And to send me a formal offer letter without sounding desperate or making it seem like I don't trust him?

UPDATE: So I gave the hiring manager of Job-A an ultimatum saying I need the offer letter today to wait longer. He came back in two hours and said that I should go ahead with the offers that I have because it will take him a month to make a decision because now they are changing the job requirements! Only after I pushed back, I got to know the real situation. Until then, he worded his emails as if the decision is made, he's just going through formality. He said I did well on the interview but he cannot offer me the job right now.

I know that he never offered me the job to begin with, but I let myself believe that he will soon because he outright asked me not to accept other jobs. Following this, he also asked me some questions regarding start date. This, the fact that I knew I did well in the interview and that I really wanted the job put together I let myself believe that I had the job.

I am moving forward with Job-B at this point.

To all those who reminded me that I don't have the job till I have it: Thank you!

Jo Bennet
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    He is not your boss (yet). He is probably inexperienced at hiring. If he is experienced at hiring, then he definitely is taking advantage of you and does not respect you. For your own self dignity, tell him that without a formal offer from him, you are continuing to explore your other options. If this upsets him, let this opportunity go. You already have other job offers. – Kent A. Sep 14 '16 at 21:53
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    ".. I have a general distrust of people in senior management positions in corporate world". Smart. That will be valuable to you throughout your career. – Nolo Problemo Sep 14 '16 at 22:41
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    Try asking him not to interview other candidates until he is ready with your job offer, and see how it goes. – Masked Man Sep 15 '16 at 03:22
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There's a simple rule.

If you don't have a formal offer, you don't have a job.

Take another job offer without any guilt. Don't worry about what he's thinking or how it makes him feel. It's business. He'll get over it. And if he takes it personally, you wouldn't really want to work with someone like that anyway.

If they wanted you badly enough (and needed you badly enough), they could find a way to rush it, most likely. And if they can't, they don't want you badly enough.

Seriously, several "birds in the hand" are better than one great big bird in the bush.

EDIT: ADDED some advice below.

One piece of advice I would also add. NEVER tell a prospective employer that you want their job more. You've given up a negotiating tool because he now knows which way you're leaning. It's always better to hedge. You can tell him that you "really like the opportunity and it would be a great fit..." but if asked which you like more, say "the other position is great for a lot of reasons too". If they believe that both positions are equal then they will have to assume that you're likely to accept the first offer. This will typically prompt them to hurry up if they can. Then when you do get an offer, you allow them to counter it if it's the job you really want. But if they can't make a counter offer before you have to accept other offer, you've learned that they don't want you as much as you believed.

Accepting one offer over another (or an offer that doesn't exist) isn't burning a bridge. It's business. Anyone who is offended by that isn't someone you would want to work for anyway. The only way to burn a bridge in negotiations is if you lead them on.

Chris E
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    +1 for saying it like it is and pointing out that this manager is simply going to cause the OP to lose out on other offers while offering nothing him/herself. I've heard from others who've seen it first-hand that some try to "keep their doors open" by saying things like that, relying on the illusion of hope giving them more time to decide if they want to hire someone or not. I guess some managers think they're playing Pokemployee Go – code_dredd Sep 14 '16 at 22:51
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    I don't think the question is about guilt, it's about choosing a great, but uncertain offer, or fine and certain one. – svick Sep 15 '16 at 01:08
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    I don't know if there is that in OP's country( which is not mentioned) but in France you can sign a "promise of hiring". Which engage the employer to hire you once everything is set. One party failing to this promise is suable. Note that in France it must only mentioned the job and the expected (yet not definitive) date of employment. – Walfrat Sep 15 '16 at 07:14
  • @Walfrat That's very close to what a "firm offer" means in the United States (and most English-speaking or at least common-law countries). The manager at Job A is specifically not willing to make that promise. – chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- Sep 15 '16 at 07:44
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    @chrylis i think i mixed the term "formal offer", with the realt contract right ? Then ChristopherEstep said enough about it. I would say the fact he's not willing to make one is a red flag. – Walfrat Sep 15 '16 at 07:51
  • It might be worth mentioning the possibility of asking 'Job B' if they are willing to give the OP a little more time to decide. There's very little downside to asking them: it's extremely unlikely that they would suddenly retract the offer so your worst-case scenario is that you don't get the additional time. it also serves to make it clear to Job B that you have a strong negotiating position because you have several opportunities. – Cronax Sep 15 '16 at 08:28
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    @Cronax: the downside is that it as much as tells them you're waiting for another offer you prefer. Whether that harms you depends on how they react to that information. My guess (and it is just a guess) that the most likely results, in order of likelihood, are (1) they say no extension, tomorrow's deadline stands; (2) they give you a short extension but someone in company-B bears a grudge; (3) they retract (which is no loss if you would have let the deadline pass); (4) they give you an extension and don't mind (and accept their job is second-rate and their deadlines aren't important). – Steve Jessop Sep 15 '16 at 10:29
  • But what OP really wants is job A. What if he takes job B, and then a week or two later, job A comes around and says "here's the formal offer sorry we took so long our dog ate the HR department". Then he won't be able to quit B easily. Sure, it's annoying and unprofessional, but is it really worth giving up your dream(-ish) job for? – Superbest Sep 15 '16 at 14:46
  • A thousand times yes! The way he's behaving screams that he does not respect you at all. It is a red flag that is a good thing to notice at this point. Your other offer sounds better anyway, it'll work out. – Jason D Sep 15 '16 at 21:51
  • -1 I don't see anything in the OP about the Job-A employer taking it personally. This answer also implies that the two offers are equally attractive. The problem is the OP doesn't want to miss out on the better, but less certain, opportunity. – Meelah Sep 16 '16 at 10:27
  • @SteveJessop while I can see the value of your argument, I feel that in today's business climate, companies are taking up a position of "you should be happy that we're making you an offer to allow you to work for us" whereas in most cases, the company should be happy that this new employee is considering solving their problem. Perhaps my opinion is too coloured by my work field. – Cronax Sep 16 '16 at 12:42
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    @Superbest What does it matter what OP wants? He doesn't have the Job A offer. Yes, it is totally worth giving up a non-existent job offer for one that you have in hand. – Masked Man Sep 16 '16 at 15:42
  • @Meelah You are getting into the XY problem here. The problem is that OP doesn't realize a "dream" job that may be offered sometime in future is worthless at this time, especially if waiting for it could make him lose the offer he already has. – Masked Man Sep 16 '16 at 15:45
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    Sometimes, even if you do have an offer, you don't have a job. I had an employer "rescind" their offer letter to a person who had quit her job and was en route to the new position. – Jeremy Holovacs Sep 16 '16 at 15:51
  • @JeremyHolovacs Exactly.And even if you sign a contract, it's STILL not final because you're not going to get paid for anything that isn't actually work. So you can go so far as accept an offer, quit your job, move to a new town and be told when you arrive at work that the budget had been rescinded and the position doesn't exist. – Chris E Sep 16 '16 at 15:55
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    Definitely take the job that actually wants you NOW, because I disagree with @Superbest: if Job A comes up with knock-out offer in six weeks, you can quit Job B without much heartache. Yes, they'll be irritated, but you can bow out gracefully with a "I just don't feel like it's the right fit" or something. Don't sweat their feelings - "it's not personal, it's just business". Most jobs will have a provisional period of 90 days where they give you a trial run, and can summarily release you during that time if they don't like the fit. Don't feel bad about feeling the same way towards them. – dpw Sep 16 '16 at 16:00
  • Telling a prospective employer I want their job more should only be avoided if it actually hurts your negotiating position. For example, you have two offers and want to leverage the other to improve your offer at the job you prefer. If there's no time constraint, then telling someone I like their job more means nothing. I could be lying. I could be telling the truth, but have scheduled an interview for a job I'd like even more later that afternoon. My negotiating position isn't hurt, because I've not divulged information that would factor into my negotiations. – iheanyi May 11 '17 at 15:19
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I call "BS" on this one. Large financial company? Red tape? "He's new?" You're making justifications on his behalf -- stop. When big money REALLY wants things to happen, they can happen same-day or sooner. This manager has fed you a line where there's no risk to his livelihood, but a lot of risk to yours if you don't take that other offer. He may be nowhere near an offer letter, but he's not going to tell you that. If he wants you to wait, he needs to PAY YOU to stay available, and nothing less.

You couldn't call up any of the professionals we use daily (physician, plumber, contractor, etc) to sit pretty for free (and not earn money) until you've figured out what you need and if you can pay. They'd laugh you right off the phone. So if this guy would believe himself reasonable for requesting this of you, maybe he isn't the right guy to be working for!

Xavier J
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    Very good one. It's obvious that people in that company don't care. Not about you, not about their colleagues who found a good candidate. Otherwise they would've rushed it. –  Sep 15 '16 at 07:40
  • I completely disagree with this answer, given that I primarily work in Banking. " When big money REALLY wants things to happen, they can happen same-day or sooner." That is completely utterly untrue. However, the actual translation what the manager is saying is "Head office have initiated a hiring freeze (have you picked up a FT in the last, say 6 months?). HR refuses to increase headcount, even though half the department left this year, and I will really try to push this recruitment through, because I don't know how banks have turning circles measured in years." – Aron Sep 19 '16 at 08:10
  • I once applied to a big german automotive company, the manager I interviewed with is a friend and he told me the process would take time but the job was sure. The process took 6 months and was hired, though the decision was made right from the beginning (my friend new my skillset prior to apply). So in big corporations things DO take time. – coder4fun Sep 22 '18 at 16:46
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You don't have a formal offer. You don't have a conditional offer. He didn't even confirm that there will be an offer.

Even if we assume that he has your best interests at heart, it is quite likely that he cannot make the hiring decision and has to stall till the hiring committee makes a decision and any background checks have been completed. Even if you get a verbal confirmation it's not going to matter.

At this point you can either:
1. take the risk of rejecting offer B in hopes of getting a (satisfactory) offer from A
2. try to get an extension of the deadline from company B
3. take offer B and accept that you might have missed an offer from A

While I'd personally go for offer B, only you can evaluate the risks and rewards and deduce what's the best choice.

Oh, and

How do I tell him that his "advice" is not enough to pass up an offer?

if he cannot understand this, he's either extremely naive or lying

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    at this point you don;t even know that if you got an offer it would be a better offer than the one you have on the table. What if you turned down your second choice for 100K and then your first choice came back only offering 80K? – HLGEM Sep 14 '16 at 21:22
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    @HLGEM indeed - and it's not just the salary. – falsedot Sep 15 '16 at 19:39
  • take offer B and wait for an offer from A. If A > B - quit B. At least, depending on your local laws/employment contract. Odds are Company B isn't going to guarantee you X months of employment or even X weeks of notice, it's just a cultural expectation/double standard where we expect individuals to treat at-will employment as if it were something else.
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