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I have a wealthy client with whom I had/have a good relationship. After completing a job above and beyond their expectations they said they felt they needed to do something to repay me. I told them not to worry about it but they insisted. Later on in the day they came into our office and made a bit of a spectacle about the "miracle" I performed and in front of everyone gifted me a a well known, high end watch.

Everyone in the office including myself were absolutely floored. I insisted that I couldn't take the watch and after a lot of "no let me give you something/no please just take it" he agreed to let me offer something for it. Later on that day during a break I decided to go to a local jewler (our office is across the street from one) to get a pricing on the watch. I was hoping this to be a "low end" model of this high end brand and thus perhaps be able to pay him at least something towards this outrageous gift (to ease my conscience as I couldn't just accept it for free).

The jewler looked at it and immediately told me it was a fake, and an "obvious" one at that. I've since gone back to the office and I'm really not sure what to do or what to say. Considering this was a wealthy client, there was no reason for me to consider it being a fake (especially given the performance that was given). I'm even starting to think that they were potentially trying to con me out of some money for this fake watch (they off handedly mentioned a "payment plan" after our talk).

I have no idea what I should do. I'll be back in the office in a couple of days and I'm not sure if I should just return it quietly and make up something as to the reason or if I should call them out on it because if I don't the whole office will be left with the impression they did something which they did not do?

Note: I suppose it's possible they didn't realise it's fake, but having been thinking over things I wouldn't exactly class this client as an honest person.

EDIT: Regarding company policies for accepting gifts: We don't really have any. My boss was there when it happened and like everyone else sort of just patted me on the back and said well done. So, unfortunately I can't really use the excuse of "company policy dictates I can't accept this gift".

EDIT2: Regarding offering money for the watch and culture: I did not intend to give them the full amount for the watch. It's hard to try and summarize a situation as you'll no doubt miss details others thought were key. In this case I was hoping to hear the way was relatively cheap so then I could make some token offer. This isn't usual in my culture, to be honest I don't know what I was really thinking. Looking back on it, his acceptance was potentially just to end the conversation and then later on refuse it when I offered.

As for the culture, yes this exchange is very much a script but I really did not want to accept it. Such a watch (from the little I know of them) could very easily have been worth a year or two's salary, probably more.

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    Get it appraised by a second independent jeweler, just in case... –  Aug 12 '16 at 18:51
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    There is also the possibility of the jeweler trying to con you out, by "buying" a "fake watch". – T. Sar Aug 12 '16 at 19:16
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    Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. – Jane S Aug 13 '16 at 15:05
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    "I have no idea what I should do." -- Can you clarify what your end goal is and why you believe you should do something? – Jason C Aug 13 '16 at 15:34
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    Why couldn't you have just taken it. Offering..? Something for it just complicates everything and got you into this position. Take it and throw it away if you want. – Insane Aug 13 '16 at 17:53
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    Are you truly solely responsible for the success? You don't work in a team? If not, I'd say the watch doesn't belong to you, everyone did their part to earn it. Put it in a frame and hang it on the wall. – Carl Aug 14 '16 at 00:49
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    If allowed, accept all gifts expensive or cheap at face value, I'd say thank you the same way for a pen as I would for a Rolex (fake or not). If the client is showboating, let them, nothing constructive comes out of embarrassing anyone in such a situation. If I found out later it was fake I wouldn't care, it didn't cost me anything, and I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. – Kilisi Aug 14 '16 at 11:34
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    I've upvoted @ThalesPereira's comment. As I think about it further, it is also possible that the jeweler just made an honest mistake. e.g., What if first jeweler looks for an established pattern, but doesn't know about a new product line? Whether due to dishonesty or incompetence, if this jeweler said something not right, you don't want to damage a good and (literally) rewarding relationship with your client based on incorrect information. No matter how much you think you trust this jeweler, a second expert opinion may be very good to get before acting on the first jeweler's assertion. – TOOGAM Aug 14 '16 at 13:42
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    Next time: graciously accept the gift in public, quietly return it in private. Everyone saves face. Make sure the client signs a receipt, so you can never be accused of bribery. – Colonel Panic Aug 15 '16 at 07:31
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    Many companies have policies in place forbidding the acceptance of gifts over a certain value, to prevent conflict of interest. Before you do anything else (and dig the hole deeper), check your own employer's policy. – Fiora the Ferret Aug 15 '16 at 07:32
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    If you pay money for a gift, you are probably being scammed. Regardless, it's rude. Better to give another gift in reciprocation. – Colonel Panic Aug 15 '16 at 07:39
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    Just something to think about - why refuse a gift? You may think you are being nice or whatever, but to the giver - who has already decided off their own bat to give it to you - it ranges from annoying to insulting to have to persuade someone to take a gift. If you want to be nice about it, make a big show of gratitude. What is the goal of refusing it? Doing the client a favour by making them go back to the vendor and get their money back? – komodosp Aug 15 '16 at 11:26
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    Relevant: "Bill Gates: Your Internet ad was brought to my attention, but I can't figure out what, if anything, Compuglobalhypermeganet does, so rather than risk competing with you, I've decided simply to buy you out. Homer: I reluctantly accept your proposal! Bill Gates: Well everyone always does. Buy 'em out, boys! Bill Gates' lackeys trash the room Homer: Hey, what the hell's going on! Bill Gates: Oh, I didn't get rich by writing a lot of checks!" --fictional Bill Gates, The Simpsons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Bus) – CCJ Aug 15 '16 at 20:05
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    "I wouldn't exactly class this client as an honest person." ...I hope your client doesn't read this post... – user541686 Aug 16 '16 at 05:17
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    trash.throw(watch); self.move(direction.forward); – Ant P Aug 16 '16 at 09:41
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    Username checks out... – elmer007 Aug 16 '16 at 21:37
  • @JaneS The discussion about the "payment plan" mentioned in the question seems valuable. That's a very confusing part of the original post. – Kyle Strand Aug 17 '16 at 00:16
  • @KyleStrand If the question is confusing and additional information has been uncovered in the comments, then you should edit the new information into the question if it helps to clarify the OP's intent or situation. We don't want to have important, pertinent information buried in 40 or 50 comments. – Jane S Aug 17 '16 at 00:55
  • @JaneS As far as I can tell, the OP did not actually clarify anything in the comments. I suppose the only recourse left is to repeat the (now deleted) comments asking for more detail about that part? – Kyle Strand Aug 17 '16 at 01:13
  • @KyleStrand No, that would serve no purpose. If it's information that is valid to the question or to an answer, then that's where it should be. If it's seeking clarification that wasn't given, then it doesn't really add any value. Remember that comments aren't searchable and are therefore not part of the knowledge base for the community. – Jane S Aug 17 '16 at 01:40
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    @JaneS .....but an extent comment (1) is a reminder to the OP (if the question is ever revisited) that more clarification would be helpful, and (2) lets future viewers (like me) know that clarification on the matter has already been requested. If I hadn't noticed your earlier comment and searched through the chat, I would have simply gone ahead and posted a new comment asking for clarification, but you're saying that such a comment wouldn't be appropriate. – Kyle Strand Aug 17 '16 at 01:49
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    The real value you got is not the watch itself, but the appearance to everyone who heard or will hear in the future that you did a job so great, a client gave you a high-end watch. Unless you're forced to (re)pay (i hope it was a joke with the payment plan! - or else they ARE scamming you) - accept the gift that is not material! – Per Hornshøj-Schierbeck Aug 17 '16 at 10:55
  • How did it end? – Andrea Lazzarotto Aug 28 '16 at 19:09

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Just take the watch. Refusing it is a huge insult to the client... even if they don't know you refused it. The proper behavior is decline at first, then graciously accept the gift when pressed. Trying to "pay" for the watch is ridiculous. The watch was a gift. Trying to pay for gift is nearly as bad as refusing it outright.

Have the watch mounted with a logo like "For Excellent Performance on Project XYZ" and put it in your office like a trophy. That way there is no question of impropriety. Places like Kinkos have business trophy centers where you can get mountings.

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    Trying to pay for gift is nearly as bad as refusing it outright. Actually, it's worse. – HopelessN00b Aug 12 '16 at 19:28
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    OP already said he agreed to let me offer something for it so how is OP supposed to get out of that when they already said they would? – Captain Man Aug 12 '16 at 20:04
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    @CaptainMan Buy the guy a gift (mug with his name on it etc,.), or just give him an appreciation card or something, but don't pay, and don't return the gift. – Kilisi Aug 12 '16 at 20:16
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    there is nothing bad about refusing a gift. – user428517 Aug 12 '16 at 20:21
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    He tried to refuse it and the client pressed it. Many people will take it as an insult if you give back a gift. While you may believe that there is nothing bad about refusing a gift, there are plenty who take a rejection of a gift as a rejection of them personally on some level. It's emotion and not logic but when you're dealing with client relationships, you have to deal with clients on their level and not risk needlessly insulting them. – Chris E Aug 12 '16 at 20:38
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    This is a nice description of what the OP perhaps should have done, but it doesn't really address the OP's actual (and pretty clear) question at all. The OP is asking what to do with a fake watch gift that they've already accepted and offered money for. Really, this answer probably should've just been a comment. – Jason C Aug 13 '16 at 15:30
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    @JasonC "Have the watch mounted with a logo like "For Excellent Performance on Project XYZ" and put it in your office like a trophy" -- that doesn't say what to do with it? – Doktor J Aug 15 '16 at 19:27
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    @DoktorJ If you remove the first paragraph of this answer, which is irrelevant (and more of a comment), that leaves only the semi-amusing paragraph you are referring to, which is a random suggestion at best, worthy of not much more than being posted as a comment. This answer isn't getting upvotes on the merit of that suggestion, mind you, it's getting upvotes from the unhelpful bandwagoning crowd of "why did you do this to begin with?" folks toying with the prey they discovered in the HNQ. – Jason C Aug 15 '16 at 19:37
  • I'm not a lawyer but I don't think keeping a fake watch as a company trophy is the best advice... I think I would give it back politely implying they may have been fooled and I'm not able to keep it. – Guillaume Aug 16 '16 at 10:30
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First thing, talk to your boss about the situation. The best option for you is if there is a company policy that prohibits taking gifts from clients. Your boss may even be in support of you lying and saying there is a policy even if there isn't one. Regardless of a policy, you can still go back and say, thank you, but I am not comfortable taking gifts like this.

If you are able to return it, certainly don't bring up that it's a fake. Whether they are aware it is fake or not, this will allow them to save face. Regardless of whether you felt cheated or not, they are your customer, and you don't want to leave them feeling bad blood. You now have more knowledge about your client's trustworthiness, and they don't have to know it.

If you decide to keep it, don't give them more than it is worth. They were originally going to give it to you for free anyway, so they shouldn't be offended by a low-ball offer. I still wouldn't bring up the fact that an appraiser told you it was a fake, for the reasons given above. If the act of accepting a gift makes you uncomfortable, you can always keep the watch on display in your office. This shows your acceptance of the gift without really personally gaining from the gift.

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    I just want to add that I don't feel cheated, in fact I probably would have kept it had the topic of paying for it never came up since in some ways I still appreciate the gesture. – itsafakebro Aug 12 '16 at 15:48
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    Even if there is no company policy, there is no need to lie if the boss is supportive: "My boss would prefer that I not accept any gifts from clients, and has instructed me to return the watch." – Patricia Shanahan Aug 12 '16 at 16:00
  • @PatriciaShanahan : I was in full agreement right up until the point where you said the word "if". Whether a higher-ranking person at an employing organization favors dishonesty, or not, should have no bearing on the reality that you should not lie. Period. (A lie ability is a liability.) – TOOGAM Aug 14 '16 at 05:26
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    @TOOGAM You are right. I didn't phrase that very well. "You can avoid taking responsibility for returning the gift if..." – Patricia Shanahan Aug 14 '16 at 06:29
  • What's a fake watch worth? In some places it's illegal to have it and could (in principle) be confiscated (e.g. by the customs administration). That watch is only worth something if you believe or pretend it's the real thing, paying a small amount of money would still mean paying more than it's worth while suggesting you don't really appreciate it and/or implicitly accepted a large gift (which the OP did not want in the first place). – Relaxed Aug 14 '16 at 12:35
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I suspect that your client said you could make payment plans as a joke when you thought it was too much for you to accept, but never actually expected you to make payments. For now I would put the watch in a drawer in my desk and not worry about it.

If after a month or so you do not hear from the client about the paying for it, just assume that the issue is passed, and do what ever you feel like with the watch. Should the customer mention the payments, just thank them for the gesture but you will have to return the gift. It is just not an expense that fits in your budget.

If you are truly concerned that they will come back after you could always send a thank you letter to them for the generous Gift. Indicate it is a luxury you could never justify for yourself but the gift is appreciated. If they did expect payment then that should trigger some response. Any lack of timely response should be accepted by you as an agreement that it was a gift.

I personally would never bring up that it is fake unless there is some reason that makes it necessary, like your employer wanting you to pay taxes on the gift, or document it because of the perceived value. If everyone else is willing to just let it go, then you should too.

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    The point of the payment joke is a really good one. – cst1992 Aug 13 '16 at 13:31
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    If the remark was not a joke this would be pretty rude. Your boss congratulating you by making you pay for the gift yourself. So it is probably a joke (hadn't thought of it myself at first, that it could be a joke). – Paul Hiemstra Aug 13 '16 at 18:52
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    Great answer, I'd just like to add that the tax thing is actually kind of a key issue. If the watch really is valued at "a year or two's salary" then you definitely have to pay taxes on it (in many countries) and could get in a lot of trouble for not doing so. If it's really that expensive, that could be reason enough to give it back or at least "redirect" the gift to the whole company, which could probably absorb the tax expense easily. – thanby Aug 16 '16 at 16:55
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What exactly are you trying to achieve here? You weren't expecting the gift, you were even hoping that it was a "low end" one. It is not like they gave you the watch in lieu of your salary. I am finding it hard to understand why you have this urge to do "something" about it, or even worse, to show them up.

I don't the whole office will be left with the impression they did something which they did not do

I would totally understand you being concerned about what people think of you, but why do you care what X thinks of Y? It is their life, let them figure that out, you just focus on your own.

Long story short: just let it go.

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    I have no problem just returning it, but at the same time my concern is them leaving everyone with a false impression which they could abuse in the future and I would feel terrible knowing I could have prevented it by making their character known. – itsafakebro Aug 12 '16 at 15:43
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    You should stop worrying about what could go wrong in other people's lives in future. Take my word for it, it doesn't help anybody. – Masked Man Aug 12 '16 at 15:46
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    How about you just keep it and move on? I mean it is not like there's a rule that fake watch cannot be gifted, right? Unless they gifted you a stolen or otherwise illegally acquired watch, I don't see why you should even worry about the price of a gift. If they had gifted you a bouquet for example, would you go asking how much it costs? – Masked Man Aug 12 '16 at 15:56
  • I am mostly tempted to let it slide, but like I said there's a part of me worried that this will come back to haunt me, or others in the future which is I guess why I am posting here just to see if I am getting too worked up over nothing or if indeed this is something that should be addressed, at least with my manager. – itsafakebro Aug 12 '16 at 16:01
  • The actions of another aren't going to come back and haunt you. You did nothing wrong. The only risk I see is you drawing more attention to it. – Chris E Aug 12 '16 at 16:05
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    Just tell your boss and your coworkers it's a fake watch. You do not need to confront your client about this. And definitely do not wear the watch in case you ever need to return it to the client. – Stephan Branczyk Aug 12 '16 at 16:07
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    @itsafakebro Your worry about them using the gift to pressure you into something in the future is exactly why many companies don't allow gifts in the first place. – David K Aug 12 '16 at 17:29
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    @StephanBranczyk I'm not quite sure I follow "definitely do not wear the watch in case you ever need to return it to the client." Why would wearing the watch prevent returning it if that somehow became necessary? Also, if you have future interaction with the client, the lack of wearing the watch will be obvious can could be taken as an insult. – reirab Aug 13 '16 at 05:51
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    @MaskedMan "I mean it is not like there's a rule that fake watch cannot be gifted." Many places do have laws against selling counterfeit goods and some have laws against buying them (from what I understand, France and Italy are notable examples of the latter.) I'm not sure about simple possession of them, though. This is also assuming it's an actual counterfeit (bearing the trademarks of the original) vs. just a replica that does not attempt to copy the trademarks. – reirab Aug 13 '16 at 06:20
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    @reirab, Counterfeit watches can be super fragile. They can break at the slightest bump. Also, a brand new $10,000 watch can be just like a brand new car. It loses a big chunk of its value as soon as you drive it off the lot and get a couple of scratches on it. And yes, the client may take it as an insult, but that can always be explained away as the guy receiving the gift being a collector and keeping everything in its original packaging. I actually have a friend like that. He bought the original iPhone on day one, but has kept it unopened and unused in its original packaging since then. – Stephan Branczyk Aug 13 '16 at 22:00
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    This is the route I would take, but it should be noted that in many locations it's impossible to legally acquire fake merchandise. It's very illegal to both buy and sell fake merchandise, so it is almost certainly an illegally acquired watch. – Arielle Lewis Aug 15 '16 at 15:31
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As this watch will not bring you any joy, ever, the answer seems clear to me:

Let a day or two pass, then return the watch to your client.

Make it a formal event that is abundantly past any negotiation. Put it into a nice big envelope with a formal letter along the lines of "Dear XXX, I have pondered long about this, and I can absolutely not take this present. I feel bad about accepting anything except the agreed payment. Please accept it back with my sincerest regards. I am looking forward to work for you again. Yours..."

Be 100% sure to formulate your letter/card in a way that gives no approach for your client to renegotiate. I.e., do not mention anything about the price, about the style of the watch or whatever. Only write subjective ("I have ...", "I can not ..." etc.). Do not lie about anything (if your company has no policy about this, then do not say it is because of a policy).

About the fake

This is kind of a pandora's box. Who to tell, what to assume.

Let's go through the scenarios:

  • Your client didn't know, and will never find out. No problem
  • Your client did know, and didn't think much about it, he just gave you a watch not caring about that. No problem.
  • Your client didn't know, finds out later, and assumes it is the same watch, they they got screwed by whoever sold it to them. No problem. They will probably feel awful and maybe eben apologize to you about it; you can rightfully tell them that you found out, and that that was not the reason why you returned it.
  • Your client didn't know, finds out later, and assumes that you switched the watch. Oops. You probably lost him at this point, but he will hardly be able to drag you to court. You can still tell him that you found out about the fact, and returned it in style like you did so he would not lose face (which is true, after all).
  • Your client did know, and gave it with the intention that you give it back, and then goes to court, claiming that you switched it, with some devious plan to frame you. Ooops. Well, in this case I guess it's up to your lawyer; they still have to actually get through with it, and you have the jeweller as witness. I assume you know your client well enough to figure out if they are capable of something like this.

All scenarios work out as well as possible; return the watch.

EDIT: Replaced all occurences of "clock" with "watch". Sorry, not a native speaker.

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  • "maybe even chat you up"? – user2943160 Aug 13 '16 at 01:03
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    Even in the last bullet, what claim would they possibly have against you? If they gave you the watch, at least in most jurisdictions, it's yours to do whatever you want with. Even if he really did give you a real watch and you intentionally gave him back a fake claiming it was the one he gave you, while I can see that losing the client's trust, I can't imagine what actual court case the client would have against you, unless you conned him for something else in exchange. Now, if you tried to sell him the fake, that would be a court case (and not just civil, but likely criminal.) – reirab Aug 13 '16 at 06:29
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    Good suggestions. Not sure why you changed "watch" to "clock", though? That's not right. – Lightness Races in Orbit Aug 13 '16 at 21:55
  • @LightnessRacesinOrbit, A watch is a clock. He could have equally said, return this gift, and that would have been correct as well since this watch was also a gift. – Stephan Branczyk Aug 13 '16 at 22:12
  • @StephanBranczyk: No, nobody uses the term "clock" in English when they are specifically referring to a "watch". – Lightness Races in Orbit Aug 13 '16 at 22:18
  • @LightnessRacesinOrbit, Obviously, not nobody. Reirab just did. See http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/clock British-English definition: "a device for measuring and showing time, usually found in or on a building and not worn by a person". Now click on the American tab of that same page for the American-English definition and it says "a device for measuring and showing time, often placed on a surface or attached to a wall". I rest my case. – Stephan Branczyk Aug 13 '16 at 23:41
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    @StephanBranczyk: "reirab just did" Where? And since when is wrapped around someone's wrist "placed on a surface or attached to a wall"? I am telling you, "clock" is not conventionally used in this manner. (Can I guarantee everybody goes by convention? No of course not..) While a watch is technically a kind of clock, in everyday speech watches are distinguished from clocks. It's as simple as that. If the OP had used "clock" then okay fine stick with it who cares, but I was wondering why this answerer went out of his or her way to go from "watch" to the very peculiar "clock". That's all. – Lightness Races in Orbit Aug 14 '16 at 13:02
  • @LightnessRacesinOrbit, You omitted the word "often", but that's ok I suppose, since you're no longer using the absolute quantifier "nobody", and your new statement is finally getting closer to the American-English definition of the word "clock". – Stephan Branczyk Aug 14 '16 at 13:30
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    @StephanBranczyk: I couldn't give two hoots about the American-English definition. I'm English, and I'm talking about English! – Lightness Races in Orbit Aug 14 '16 at 13:31
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  • This list of possible repercussions associated with returning the watch suggests to me that OP should keep it; that way OP has an office full of witnesses who'll tell the same story as OP regarding the last thing to happen (silly rich dude gifts insane watch to OP, forces it on OP when OP tries to reject it). IANAL, but I'd guess that should shield OP from any predatory litigation etc. – CCJ Aug 15 '16 at 20:17
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I think it would be a mistake to assume that the client is trying to con you. After all, he tried to give you the watch as a gift. It was only after you protested that the discussion of payment came up. I think offering to pay for the watch was a mistake, but you can't get that back now. All you can do is move forward.

You should give the watch back to the client(as I would do if I were you) and explain that you have thought about it and you really just can't accept such a beautiful gift. Be grateful and thankful but direct and clear. Don't wiggle. Don't waffle. If he tries to argue, thank him again and refuse again. Repeat this as many times as it takes for him to get the message.

In my opinion it would be unwise to discuss the fakeness of the watch or be anything other than obsequious and grateful for the "generous gift."

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    I disagree. In many places, it's customary to refuse gifts. If this was a social engineering attempt, the client already knew the script. – aebabis Aug 12 '16 at 17:39
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    @acbabis Is it customary in your culture to offer to pay someone who is trying to give you a gift? I have never encountered that. (US) – Lumberjack Aug 12 '16 at 17:44
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    Yeah, I missed that. Still, it's possible that the customer put the thought in the OP's mind. The situation seems way too contrived otherwise. – aebabis Aug 12 '16 at 20:20
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    Not a good idea trying to give it back, the horse has already bolted. Not only it has already been accepted, trying to give it back with "beautiful gift" and gratefulness is lying through your teeth and very likely you are setting your own trap. Clearly speaking, there are people and cultures out there (including me) which will not accept to take an accepted present back so your "they will get the message" will not work and you will end up embarassed and humiliated. You can try to give it back once like DavidK, else simply put it in a box and forget about it. – Thorsten S. Aug 14 '16 at 03:18
  • I would not classify a con handing down casually a fake high-end watch. Making a public display/an office event "of such a generous gift" does make it a con. – Rui F Ribeiro Oct 03 '17 at 03:55
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It's pretty simple:

1. If you have any reason to think they had "ulterior motives", then do something.

2. If not, then keep it.

You need to learn to accept genuine gifts; it seems like you're just not comfortable with that.
However, you also need to make sure this isn't going to come back to bite you.

So, I think the only thing to worry here is about whether they're trying to flatter you because they expect something in return later.

If you think there's a chance this is the case, then either:

  1. Return the watch, telling them you appreciate it very much but you genuinely do not feel comfortable taking such a high-value gift (which would be true!), or

  2. If that just isn't realistic, donate it to charity (or sell it at the highest price you can and donate the proceedings to charity), and send them a quick note letting them know that you've made a charitable contribution in their name.

You really can't go wrong with #2 here. If they intended it to be fake and it was, then they now know you found out, but you haven't said anything so it's about as good as it can be. If they didn't intend it but it was, then they didn't know in the first place, so it's still good. And if it's real, then you've helped out someone in need in their name -- nothing wrong with that.

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    #2 sounds very wrong to me. Dealing in fake watches is illegal in many places, the watch could be seized and destroyed. If you present it as fake, it's not worth much and you're suggesting a charity should or would engage in some shady business for pocket change. OTOH, if you would present it as genuine in the hope of making a significant donation, you would be conning someone yourself. – Relaxed Aug 14 '16 at 21:55
  • @Relaxed: Nothing prevents you from getting a few knowledgeable opinions about its authenticity before selling it... – user541686 Aug 14 '16 at 21:57
  • @Mehrdad OK, but what if it's fake? That's the question here... – Relaxed Aug 14 '16 at 22:05
  • @Relaxed: Then they would tell you it's fake and you'd try to sell it as a fake? On eBay maybe? I mean, even if you sell it for $1 that's still more than zero. – user541686 Aug 14 '16 at 22:36
  • @Mehrdad That's precisely what I commented on above, it sounds like a bad idea. – Relaxed Aug 14 '16 at 23:09
  • @Relaxed: Well, if it turns out it's fake, I still don't see what's wrong with selling it for a small amount when you're being honest about it being fake. All it takes is just an eBay post. And after that it's cash. – user541686 Aug 14 '16 at 23:14
  • @Mehrdad depending on local law, selling the fake (even when declaring it), is benefiting from the violation of the IP rights of the real things owners. Consider if I started a business selling fake iPhones -- they look just like iphones, but I label them as fake in all the ads and sales page. Apple regularly sues bussinesses for making something that is too similar in shape/colour/functionality -- this is the basis of trademark law. – Frames Catherine White Aug 15 '16 at 10:08
  • @Oxinabox: Except this isn't a business, and you didn't make the watch? – user541686 Aug 15 '16 at 10:21
  • @Mehrdad and whether those fine-points matter are going depend on local law. – Frames Catherine White Aug 15 '16 at 10:40
  • Last I looked, eBay policy strictly prohibits selling "fake" or "replica" branded goods. Regardless of whether they are labeled or disclosed as such. – newcoder Aug 15 '16 at 16:48
  • @newcoder: OK, well Craigslist then. You guys are really picky... – user541686 Aug 15 '16 at 16:48