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I'm the technical co-founder/CTO of a B2B startup. I created the product, our design, etc 6 years ago. Our board hired a CEO 4 years ago and they've been trying to get VC funding since they joined. They come from a very enterprise-heavy background/successful startups. We're successful with our customers which is why we've been able to stay afloat for so long without VC funding (we have taken other grants, though).

It has only been myself and another developer that I hired ~3 years ago (a friend that worked at the same company as me before) doing the development side of the company. I'd classify this other developer as "intermediate". Our company is close to getting $5 million in VC funding by early September. Or, that seems to be where the goal post has been moved to.

I have not had a salary increase in 3 years. I know that my salary for my skills/contributions is significantly lower than market rate. I have only about 2% of equity (or lower, see the comments of this question). I have received offers from other companies and I know I could be doing much better salary-wise... but my heart is very much in this product that I've created and I've been "holding out" for the VC funding.

The CEO has "promised" that once we get VC funding, my salary will "be adjusted accordingly". They have not mentioned actual numbers.

However, I've gotten pressure from the CEO that we need to start hiring more developers to scale/show the VCs why we need the money. We discussed hiring by market rate (or slightly more) because this job is more demanding than a typical "developer" enterprise job. The CEO says that we can pay by region as well (though, I disagree and think all developers should make equal pay regardless of where they choose to leave -- we shouldn't penalize that choice).

So, the CEO wants me to hire someone by end of April at market rate. I brought up that before we do this we need to make adjustments to both my salary and the other developers salary. The CEO laughed and said "welcome to management... I've been hiring people 2x my salary for all my previous companies... this is what management does!". They then explained: "all joking aside, there will be adjustments made with VC funding". They explained that they can't go to the board with adjustments because the money is physically not there. As a side note: I'm in the middle of also getting a $250K grant from the government that begins early May.

The CEO comes from a heavy sales/marketing background. Another point to this whole story is that other sales people/account executives that are being hired have 1.5x my salary.

I'm feeling very frustrated and hurt by this situation because I feel like I've created something and I don't have control of the compensation that I believe I should receive if this CEO wasn't the one running things.

I think both myself and the other developer should have salary increases before hiring any new developers and then on top of that I think I should be paid more because of the work that I did/still do as the creator as well as the "senior" developer.

What do I do?

Basil Bourque
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    Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. –  Apr 03 '19 at 12:33
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    Perhaps you should change the title - with 2% equity you're hardly a co-founder (unless the company is founded by 50 people). – Dmitry Grigoryev Apr 03 '19 at 12:45
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    @DmitryGrigoryev sadly, they may be a co-founder - but have either had their share watered down or never held much in the first place. Share count != founding status. – UKMonkey Apr 03 '19 at 16:55
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    I'm wondering how you are a co-founder (and the lead developer of the product!) and only have 2% - I'm not sure how much you've sold or traded off, but this number just smells wrong to me - your equity should be in the mid-double digits at least I'd say (15-30%) – Joe Smentz Apr 03 '19 at 16:57
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    @UKMonkey Watered down how, without VC funding and few employees? – Konrad Rudolph Apr 03 '19 at 22:54
  • @DmitryGrigoryev and all of you: that's exactly what I said yesterday, in comments moved to chat – smci Apr 04 '19 at 03:27
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    @KonradRudolph There are many ways to water down the value of shares. VC's are one; Angels being another. I don't know the history of the company and frankly it really doesn't matter how or if the shares have been watered down. The point I was making was that you can have no shares in a company, and still be it's founder. – UKMonkey Apr 04 '19 at 07:39
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    Please, OP, update us! I'd rather pay for this than for Netflix. – Git Gud Apr 04 '19 at 09:12
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    It's worth noting that the standard solution to "we'd like to pay you more, but the money is physically not there" is to get paid in stock. In addition to the 2% you have now - that stock was for past events, but if they want to keep paying you less cash than market rate, then they have to pay you in significant value of new stock. – Peteris Apr 04 '19 at 09:33

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Right now, you're being used, and the CEO is feeding you vague promises to convince you to let yourself keep being used. Demand appropriate guarantees. If you can't get them, walk.

If you had significant equity in the company, this would be fine, and even normal, but you don't, so it's not. Sure, the CEO might decide to up your pay once VC funding comes in... but he also might not, or he might "up your pay" in a way that doesn't amount to much, or doesn't pay you back for your years of investment. From the way he's talking, he's either running off of instincts that assume you do have a significant chunk of equity, or he's stringing you along and he knows he's stringing you along because thus far he's been able to get away with it and he doesn't see a good reason to stop. Neither of those is a good sign for your paycheck going forward.

Now, he's saying that right now, the company needs to burn as hot as it can, and it doesn't have the money for that, so it needs belt-tightening from its most invested personnel to make it happen. That's even a legitimate thing to say - but then he also needs to give you a reason to be invested. That's going to mean, at bare minimum, an actual contract promising a certain level of pay increase once the VCs come through (and some sort of guarantee that you get paid even if they drop you immediately thereafter). Even that can get pretty bad, because that stuff can keep getting put off, month after month. Better would be increasing your equity stake. if he won't (or can't) do one of those, and he won't (or can't) increase your salary... then walk. Just walk. go to one of those other jobs that will pay more. They clearly don't value you enough to actually give you a reason to stay, so don't. It's not worth it to martyr yourself on this thing just so someone else can get rich off of your baby.

It's in his best interests to keep you doing what you're doing for as little money as he can get away with for as long as he can get away with, and, as a CEO/people person, he's good at making that sound reasonable. Don't let him get away with it. As far as the board, it doesn't actually matter if it's the board or the CEO themselves that feels like you're not worth paying anything like what you're worth. That's a shell game. Whoever it is can take the blame for your departure once you're gone.

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    Right, this is all correct. Ben, I was just saying to the OP I believe OP has confused issues by saying he was a "founder". It's a division spinoff (apparently, OP was a key inventor of the product - which is great.) – Fattie Apr 02 '19 at 15:31
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    The lead sentence of BenB's final paragraph, is, especially true, important, and precise. – Fattie Apr 02 '19 at 15:40
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    Just note that the qualities that make a CEO overlaps with one that makes a sociopath. The CEO most likely don't care about you at all. – Nelson Apr 02 '19 at 17:33
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    @Nelson I have met many non-sociopathic CEOs. I think "most likely" is overstating things. Still, is is at least a notable possibility. – Ben Barden Apr 02 '19 at 17:39
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    @BenBarden even if this ratio is 99 to 1 , CEO that goes for VC will squarely fall in to the 1 ;) – Strader Apr 02 '19 at 18:51
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    I'd add on that you should be willing to walk, but don't necessarily have to - once you have a competing offer, you can show it to your CEO and give him an opportunity to beat it. If you do really like this company and are emotionally invested in it, you may prefer to stay if he decides to match it. Of course, he might not, which is why you need to be ready to leave. – Dan Staley Apr 02 '19 at 20:38
  • If they can't pay you now, ask for equity. – Hobbamok Apr 03 '19 at 09:10
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    @DanStaley The advice I've read here is that in general, you should not take a counter offer. One reason is that a counter offer is basically admitting that they are very much aware that you are worth more to the company and weren't willing to pay you accordingly before. Another reason is that the reaction to such an "opportunity to beat it" is often to take that opportunity... and then immediately search for your replacement. (So you'll only get that salary until they found the next sucker.) – R. Schmitz Apr 03 '19 at 09:44
  • @R.Schmitz That's generally good advice, but in this particular situation it's already broadly acknowledged that OP is underpaid. OP also appears to be fairly irreplaceable in terms of value to the company. – Dan Staley Apr 04 '19 at 16:42
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I hate to say it, but at this point it sounds like you're less of a founder/owner and more of a mid/upper manager. You have lost/given/sold 98% of the equity. You really don't have a lot of say in this.

Don't mean to be rude, but at this point, if the CEO says to do something, do it. Or leave. I don't see other any other options.

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    it wasn't lost/given/sold. OP never had it in the first place. Still, you're not wrong. – Ben Barden Apr 02 '19 at 17:02
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    -1 You're assuming there's no goodwill available for OP to negotiate and improve the situation. This may not be the case; simply walking out or toughing through it are not necessarily the only options. – Seldom 'Where's Monica' Needy Apr 02 '19 at 21:49
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    @SeldomNeedy The "we don't have the money to pay you what you're worth" juxtaposed against the "we need to hire people at or above market rate" tells me there isn't any goodwill to be had, not even accounting for the CEO laughing at OP when asked to make salary adjustments. – Dan Lyons Apr 03 '19 at 17:47
  • @DanLyons Hard to say without being there. Sometimes what looks like knowing callousness is the result of other factors, perhaps the CEO thinking of OP as a 'friend' who is perfectly happy taking risks and making big sacrifices on the basis of trust. Or maybe he's an *-hole, but it doesn't (usually) hurt to clearly state one's terms one more time before making irreversible decisions. – Seldom 'Where's Monica' Needy Apr 04 '19 at 17:30
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What do I do?

I think that's what you need to decide.
In an effort to help I will point out that a 2% stake in a company that was spun off from another one isn't horrible (like it would be if you founded it from the ground)
if your (~2%) shares cannot be diluted.

The CEO has "promised" that once we get VC funding, my salary will "be adjusted accordingly".

Your CEO has a sales background, so I'd advise you to discuss specific numbers.
If not you could hear, "Well I'd love to give you more, but the VC only provided X and our salaries (because of all the other new hires) is Y and that ratio is too high, so we just cannot give you a big bump right now."

Not to put to fine a point on it, but your negotiation leverage will never be higher than it is today.
Make sure that the amount is in writing and that it says in the paper that it will be approved by the VC in advance (otherwise the VC may have enough of the company to overrule the increase).

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    All very wise advice. – Fattie Apr 02 '19 at 15:32
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    Key takaways (to use management speak): "Your CEO has a sales background", " your negotiation leverage will never be higher than it is today", and "Make sure that the amount is in writing and that it says in the paper that it will be approved by the VC in advance" – FreeMan Apr 03 '19 at 14:26
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    +1 for "your negotiation leverage will never be higher than it is today" – MPW Apr 03 '19 at 20:59
  • Especially that putting it in the paper and presenting to the VC adds to the story why you need more money. Otherwise not only your company don't get developers but also lose CTO. – Ister Apr 04 '19 at 06:56
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How can I deal with my CEO asking me to hire someone with a higher salary than me, a co-founder?

For better or worse,

There's only one simple two-way answer in the situation as described:

  1. IF your 2% is now locked in and safe and in your hands (you've passed all cliffs, no dilution is possible, the "priority" bullshit is OK), then, just walk off.

  2. IF your 2% is just theoretical (you might get it depending on blah blah) you're screwed. Write it off to experience, and walk off. (The CEO will by nature be a tough negotiator. He knows you're a soft negotiator so, he'll never give you any salary to speak of, so there's no hope of that.)

In situation 1. They'll soon realize they need you and, magically, the money will appear and you'll get a great salary. If they don't - so what? You can get a huge salary anywhere else by 2pm this afternoon. And you have the shares. So you've won.

In situation 2. There's no good outcome. You'll never actually get the 2%. (There'll always be some reason it's just out of reach for "another few years".) Unfortunately they know that you "have your heart in the product" which is equivalent to saying "can be ripped off to work for a low salary," so unfortunately they've got you there. I would honestly just forget the whole thing and move on. Again: you can get a huge salary anywhere else by 2pm this afternoon. You've got a great story for the grandkids about the "startup era".


Important...

One huge point here: OP mentions a couple times "promises..." that have been made.

Sadly, when I was reading the question at first, I literally assumed OP was joking / being sarcastic.

Unfortunately: in business, when someone does the mouth-talk wordy thing, you just look at their lips moving, and then laugh.

It is absolutely essential to realize that in business words mean, simply, nothing.

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  • 1 - re: "I just assumed OP was joking / being sarcastic." and "If one is still at the point in "business growth" where one actually hears the sounds when people do the mouthy-move thing ... one has serious problems." While funny the humor sounds a little cruel reading it. The guy got totally swindled which can happen to some perfectly normal intelligent people, It seems a little off-note to mock a victim.
  • – Mark Rogers Apr 02 '19 at 16:49
  • right @MarkRogers ! I really did not mean to sound cruel and tried to avoid it :O I would want to be cruel to perpetrators ... In all events, one has to very strongly emphasize "words mean nothing." – Fattie Apr 02 '19 at 16:52
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    100% agree, walk away as soon as you can or negotiate from that point of action. Also, sadly, IMHO, you cannot trust any verbal promises from above. Until its on paper AND have no double meaning to what you have (no can , should ,would etc) you have nothing but credit for creation and good resume chapter. – Strader Apr 02 '19 at 17:37