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When choosing the itinerary for a flight I recently booked, one option had a layover that seemed quite short. Even so, in considering that option, it seemed to me unlikely that the airline would offer an itinerary that included a layover so short that — barring delayed flights or other unforeseeable circumstances — it didn't allow for passengers to make it from one leg to the next.

However, there are many questions on this forum which ask if certain layover times being offered by certain airlines are long enough, which suggests that airlines do in fact offer itineraries that include layovers that don't allow for passengers to make their connecting flights.

There seems no reason a person would choose such an itinerary unless the person is unaware that the layover time is unrealistically short. For the airlines to be making offers that would only be chosen by unaware passengers seems deceptive. That said, it also doesn't seem likely (to me) that the airlines are that intentionally fraudulent.

So, why do airlines offer flight itineraries with unrealistically short layovers?

Even though the flights that make up an itinerary are independent of each other, if passengers can't make a connecting flight with a given itinerary, it seems wrong for the airlines to offer it.

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    i have been traveling for approximately 4 years. i find a shorter layover time more comfortable. the least layover i have faced was 40mins and Hamad Intl. (Doha, Qatar). But you should note that if due to a flight delay you miss your connection the airline normally accommodates you on the next connection (confirm with airline) – Newton Jul 20 '16 at 03:40
  • @Newton Thanks for your comment and advice. However, I'm trying to find out why airlines use this practice rather than asking what should be done when it goes wrong. – cheaterpushups Jul 20 '16 at 03:46
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    isn't a short transit time always preferable? unless if you want to exit the airport for sightseeing etc? – Newton Jul 20 '16 at 04:22
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    A short transit time is usually preferable, but a too short transit time is not. And everyone has their own comfort levels about that sort of thing so it's hard to judge. Minimum connection times are often, IMHO, "too short," but the airline would rather sell the tickets and worry about any consequences later. – Zach Lipton Jul 20 '16 at 04:39
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    @Newton Last week Delta proposed to me that when flying through Atlanta that a 40 minute layover was fine. If the stars align and the two flights were in adjoining gates (which I have had) then this is fine. But more likely is that you are sprinting non-stop from a gate in one terminal to a gate in another terminal in order to get to the connecting flight - and Atlanta is a large airport and I am not an olympic class runner. – Peter M Jul 20 '16 at 04:41
  • yes i totally agree with that, which is exactly why i have a look at the airport details and make a mental construct of worst case timings before finalizing the transit times. anything more than an hour and less than 3 hours is comfortable with me. – Newton Jul 20 '16 at 05:20
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    @Newton no, a short transit time is not always preferable. After a transoceanic flight I'm rarely at my destination and I want 2-3 hours to shower and eat. Other times I want to sleep before the next hop and will force a minconnect accordingly. –  Jul 20 '16 at 05:48
  • @Newton I'm using the phrase "unrealistically short" as a synonym for not allowing one to board a connecting flight on time. Maybe I should think of a succinct way to reword the question and title to avoid that phrase since as you say short is sometimes desirable. – cheaterpushups Jul 20 '16 at 06:16
  • Just because some people who are unfamiliar with air travel are worried that they won't be able to make the connection doesn't mean the connection is indeed too short. – fkraiem Jul 20 '16 at 08:02
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    @fkraiem Again, I now see that the qualifier "short" was inappropriate and has led to confusion. To clarify, the question being asked is, assuming that there is a given amount of time which is required in order to physically move from an aircraft used in one leg of an itinerary to an aircraft in the following leg, why do airlines offer itineraries containing layovers shorter than that required time? I acknowledge that the assumptions and premises of this question are potentially debatable. – cheaterpushups Jul 20 '16 at 08:22
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    @JonathanReez If I wanted to take a later flight then I would have booked a later flight. – Peter M Jul 20 '16 at 13:22
  • Do you have an example of what you think is an unrealistic transfer time? – jcaron Jul 20 '16 at 14:36
  • One time I had a connection where the first plane was running late, so we landed with less than 5 minute before the next plane was scheduled to take off. My baggage was transferred as soon as the first plane landed, and I was instructed to exit the plane before the other passengers and run to the next one. The second plane took off right after I was seated. No matter how short the layover is, it's not necessarily impossible. – Brian Jul 20 '16 at 16:57
  • it would help to give example of the airport and transfter time you classify as unrealistic transfer time. When I was working customer service I heard passengers telling me 2 hours is too short of transfer time so it really varies by person. There are standard transfer times for every airport published to all airlines and airlines can sell a ticket as long as it is within the regulation. If you are afraid of missing transfer because slow walker and such you can always pick your own itinerary. – tom Jul 20 '16 at 16:58
  • For the US: inbound travels with connecting domestic flights require about 90 minutes because of the immigaration bottleneck, but outbound layovers can routinely be done in 30 minutes. Provided it's the same airline and the same terminal at the airport. – TemplateRex Jul 20 '16 at 18:16
  • "However, there are many questions on this forum which ask if certain layover times being offered by certain airlines are long enough, which suggests that airlines do in fact offer itineraries that include layovers that don't allow for passengers to make their connecting flights." - No it doesn't, it only suggests that people don't know how long a long enough layover is. – user253751 Jul 20 '16 at 23:37
  • @immibis Apparently the premise of this question is more provocative than I could have anticipated. Since questions based on false premises are of detriment to this site, if you believe the premise here to be false, please feel free to appeal to the mods to have this one removed. – cheaterpushups Jul 21 '16 at 00:43
  • Thank you all for your comments pointing out my question's lack of clarity and my lack of understanding of air travel. From these comments, I now understand that airlines do not offer itineraries without sufficient time between legs for a passenger to physically move from one aircraft to another, and if one does perceive a layover time to be insufficient, that is being caused by one's uninformed perception of how air travel should be. Although the answers were not able to answer the question due to its faulty premise, I'll nevertheless choose one just for the sake of closing it out. – cheaterpushups Jul 21 '16 at 01:02
  • @PeterM The last time I flew Delta with a layover at ATL the first flight was too late and there were no more connecting flights home that night. They had to put me up at the "Airport Clarion" (scare quotes badly needed) with all the other people stranded that night. To re-work an old George Wallace joke, I decided that "DELTA=Does Eventually Leave The Airport" – Monty Harder Jul 21 '16 at 18:06
  • Bait and switch. Offer you a short layover..knowing you will miss it..And book you on the next flight – MATTHEW Dec 03 '17 at 10:22

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Airlines, in conjunction with airports, set a minimum connection time (MCT) for combinations of flights at a certain airport depending on a number of factors, such as whether one is international and the other domestic. The airline will offer you any flight that meets MCT and typically shows flights with either the lowest total duration or lowest cost first.

Due to schedule padding this is usually sufficient even if it seems unrealistic. I've had very short connections at huge airports and due to schedule padding have arrived half an hour early and could stroll to the connecting flight.

Airports typically want you to have a longer connection as they're likely to gain additional revenue from the passenger from shopping and eating, so I don't believe they will want to shorten this. Airlines typically don't gain additional revenue for any particular length of connection, but do run the risk of revenue loss if they have to compensate passengers (e.g. EU261/2004) or risk rebooking losses due to leaving with seats empty and risk delays due to having to unload luggage in some cases.

Overall, I don't think airlines have much incentive at all to have risky short connections, but do so mainly as a convenience for the passenger.

Edit: Unless you're connecting with the exact same aircraft (unusual), the two flights are independent and there is no revenue gain due to minimising the connection time. I believe the other answers that mention this are actually referring to turnaround time.

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  • Also, if you are using the same airline, you likely don't have far to go in the terminal to make the next connection. – Chris K Jul 20 '16 at 18:47
  • When flying with the same airline they also have the option to wait. On many occasions I've had a long haul flight wait for me when I came in on a late short haul flight, ie when transiting through Amsterdam and Atlanta. Time can be easily made up on a long haul flight and it's simpler from them than mass rebooking and complaints. – ChrisFletcher Mar 31 '24 at 19:25
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It is all about (unsurprisingly) economics.

  1. An airplane (which is very expensive) only makes money when it is flying, so airlines have an incentive to get them in the air as quickly as possible.

  2. Technology has allowed for quicker planing/deplaning of passengers. Further, many things that required a lot of paperwork (thus slow and inefficient) are now digitized which helps speed up matters.

  3. The changing face of air travel also means that airports are now designed differently to allow efficient movement of people. Multiple gates, multiple boarding points, automatic transit systems, etc. all are there to facilitate the quick and efficient movement of people - again, all in the name of getting the airplane off the ground.

  4. Airports use this ability to quick turnaround as an incentive when courting airline business. Airports make a ton of fees from airlines, and airlines provide a lot of jobs at airports. Therefore, airports are being designed for efficient turnaround times (especially at larger international hubs like Heathrow / Dubai).

All this boils down to shorter transits. This is good for passengers, as they quickly arrive at their destination. However airlines are running on a tight margin - because they are on the hook for costs if a connection is delayed, missed and passengers are stranded.

To ensure everyone is operating on the same page, airlines, airports and the army of companies and contractors servicing airports all agree on a minimum connection time. This is a commitment from all parties that they will work towards meeting this timeframe for departure of connecting flights. The shorter this time frame, the better it is for business - for all involved.

As airlines and the processes surrounding airlines get more efficient, expect this turnaround time to get shorter still.

There is a balancing act to this and certain realities that cannot be ignored - no matter how efficient the machinery, it takes quite a good time to get everyone off a fully laden A380.

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  • If a daily flight usually arrives early on days other than Fridays, might an airline take that into consideration when scheduling layovers on other days? – supercat Jul 21 '16 at 15:20
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    I don't see the relevance of #1, layover times aren't related to airplane "uptime". Suppose an airline has flights both arriving and leaving from some airport every hour on the hour. Booking a passenger with a 1-hour, 2-hour, or 10-hour layover has no effect whatsoever on how long planes sit on the ground, or how full they are when in the air. There's no reason to expect that when the passenger sits in the terminal for longer, the outbound plane also sits on the tarmac for longer. – Nuclear Hoagie Aug 11 '22 at 17:55
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Imagine you're flying from London to Miami. Searching for flights gives you a long 10-hour layover:

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Or a faster 2-hour layover:

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Assuming the price is the same, most people would go for the 2-hour option. Therefore airlines are trying to undercut their competition by offering connections which are as short as technically possible.

You might ask why don't they simply offer 2-hour connections instead of 1-hour connections. The answer is that often airlines only have 1 or 2 flights per day to a particular airport, so the next best option is to offer a long unattractive layover. They'd still put you on the next flight if your miss the connection, but by that time you've already bought a ticket so they don't care that much.

Then someone might ask why don't they move the outbound flights by an hour to make the connection more realistic. That is also unfeasible because the amount of passengers transiting from a specific flight to a specific flight is very small. So airlines have to work out connections with the schedule that they already have.

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  • Once you arrive in BOS on that BA flight, there are dozens of destinations after that and all the BA connections will be operated by AA and scheduled by AA. I doubt they care all that much which incoming flight connects with them. – Berwyn Jul 20 '16 at 12:52
  • @Berwyn answer expanded. – JonathanReez Jul 20 '16 at 13:15
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Edit1: Only people inside the airline business may give definitive answer, but as per my experience/calculated-guess:

Two legs of an itinerary are two different flights, with first's destination and second's start being same, among some other factors like same airline or alliance.

Now this second leg may have its own constraints, like landing time slots, competitors' flight timings, demand & supply of this second leg, multiple incoming feeder flights to this, this leg itself might be a feeder to third leg, and many more, which may stop airline to adjust this second leg's times. Note that first leg also might be bound by similar or other constraints.

In the end, it comes to commercial viability and risk, that how many passengers in the past have made the connection on same itinerary successfully, how much money airline will lose if a passenger misses the connection, in terms of hotel or rebookings, v/s how much money they will lose if they change time to allow longer connection times.

The airlines do this calculations in all scenarios, and try to maximise the time their aeroplanes are actually flying in air, instead of on ground, in a given period of time (might be a day, week or a month etc.) They also calculate the optimum air travel speed, weight and altitude to use minimum possible fuel and time.

I personally have experienced KLM transfer times of 50 minutes at Amsterdam airport, without any checked in luggage, and from/to non-schengen to/from schengen, and almost every time I have to literally run to clear immigration to board the next flight. Also, as it involved immigration clearance, both gates are always at far pears, and few times next flight was on day after tomorrow.

TLDR: So, the only sensible choice will be to make connection times as little as required, provided all other factors are same, in order to maximise revenue.

Edit2: Word TLDR word added, as suggested by janedoe1337

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    TL;DR: So, the only sensible choice will be to make connection times as little as required, provided all other factors are same, in order to maximise revenue. – Summer Jul 20 '16 at 09:06
  • TL;DR makes sense only at the beginning of the article, IMHO – Peter M. - stands for Monica Oct 11 '16 at 21:16
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    @PeterMasiar :) IMO, it could be anywhere at top or at bottom, as it literally says "Too Long Din't Read ", means reader has scrolled all the wall of text, & DID not read (as in past tense).. :) – DavChana Oct 12 '16 at 08:15
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It all boils down to better technology and facilities.

Now, we have online check-ins, online services, airlines provide apps that helps passengers in knowing things before even reaching airports. Internet is becoming more available almost in every mobile. All of that made the passengers smarter when it comes to air travel.

Airports also becoming smarter, providing online services to fetch all kinds of information. They are becoming bigger but smarter in designs and consider such cases.

In addition to that, airline and airport employee deal with better real-time systems now, including handling staff and crew members. Gates are distributed in a smart way. Airplanes are also connected to airline systems..

All of the above factors with the help of some statistics, made the airlines go for shorter ground times for aircrafts, leading to more flights and that lead to shorter connection times. When everything is connected, gathering information is easier, when enough information is available, things get better.

I as a cabin crew for more than 10 years, noticed these changes from within. We used to have 1 hour ground times, now it's not more than 25 minutes in some situations. Without better technology this would have never happened.

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