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My France visa was rejected 2 times. I had submitted all relevant documents with strong ties with my home country. I provided a detailed itinerary day by day and all confirmed bookings of flights and hotels.

Now I have cancelled my trip but I have appealed the decision.

So did anyone have any success with appeal without a French lawyer?

Reason of refusal both time was justification and purpose not reliable.

Brief Summary:

I have an Indian passport with no travel history and am single. I earn more than 2,500 Euros per month and attached assets of my stocks portfolio, which had close to 20k Euros. I attached NOC and ITR, bank statement, everything.

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  • For completeness, what is your citizenship and what were the refusal reason(s)? – Traveller Oct 25 '23 at 08:52
  • I am from India and the reason was justification and purpose not reliable. – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 09:45
  • I have gone through https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/53411/schengen-visa-refusal-justification-for-the-purpose-and-conditions-of-the-inten and dont find anything related to me – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 09:47
  • It might help you get an answer if you edit your question to include a brief summary of your personal circumstances (eg travel history, job/income, marital status, assets in India, purpose/duration of trip and itinerary), when you applied, and what improvements on your first application/paperwork you made for your second one to address the refusal reason. Which (if any) risk assessment element in this graphic might be against you? What reason are you appealing on? – Traveller Oct 25 '23 at 09:58
  • Details updated. Also in my 2nd attempt, i added detailed day wise itinerary which was missing earlier and also provided NOC from the employer. Appealing on basis that i added all confirmed booking. iternary provided. NOC and Bus tickets for intercity as well – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 10:11
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    No travel history and single. There you have it. Your chances of an appeal success are vanishingly small, IMHO. – Traveller Oct 25 '23 at 10:14
  • I dont understand why do they think i will not come to back my country. I am earning more than France average salary. Also i wanted to travel europe for first time only. Dont know why asians are treated like this :( – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 10:34
  • @kk_sad I don't know your personal circumstances, but a wild guess just for illustration could be that you might be earning those 2500€ in a way which would be easily transferable to Europe (let's say you're an expert in IT or finance), so having such a job in India does not actually tie you much to India. Similarly, stock portfolios are quite easy to move to a different country, so they don't really mean much in terms of ties. – TooTea Oct 25 '23 at 13:00
  • Haha, by that case if i have property in india. I can easily sell it and transfer to europe and if any family member lives here, i can also call them by applying visa :) – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 13:18
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    @kk_sad It’s pretty well-recognised that getting a tourist visa to sought-after destinations such as Schengen, Canada, USA, UK, Australia, typically requires the applicant to demonstrate a history of complying with immigration rules. Visiting a few countries where you can enter visa free or get a visa on arrival before trying again will increase your chances of success. – Traveller Oct 25 '23 at 17:03
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    @Traveller thats just sad. I dont want to go to south east asia. I am forcefully sent to these countries just to get mentioned visas. Thats unfair but thats how life is – kk_sad Oct 25 '23 at 18:05
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    Thing is,two EU applications in a row with literally zero other travel history are quite a concerning signal for any visa officer. It shows a stubborn determination to get into the EU somehow and zero interest in the rest of the world. Genuine tourists rarely act like that, because there's a lot to be seen all over the globe,not just in Europe. Visa officers are rarely capable of mind-reading or equipped with crystal balls,so all they can do is guess at your true motives based on the signals you give them. – TooTea Oct 26 '23 at 18:32
  • See https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/53411/schengen-visa-refusal-justification-for-the-purpose-and-conditions-of-the-inten Old but still helpful. – jcm Oct 27 '23 at 03:23

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