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Every time the Israel-Palestine conflict flares up, the US reaffirms that "Israel has right to defend itself" (examples in 2003, 2009, 2023).

Literally, this seems trivial: Israel has right to defend itself like everybody, since self-defense is a universal principle.

But the US never officially states the right of Palestine to defend itself for instance, so apparently they are not considering self-defense as a universal principle, they give permission exclusively to Israel.

Additionally it is questionable whether self-defense even applies, because according to Francesca Albanese (UN special rapporteur on Palestine), "there is jurisprudence of the International Court of Justice that says that self-defense cannot apply in a context of military occupation." It's reasonable to assume that the US State Department is aware of this, so do they mean to express that the US support the use of force by Israel despite international law?

Since diplomatic language is usually very carefully crafted and this statement has been used for a long time, how should it be interpreted exactly?

Erwan
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    I don't see what's unclear about this. When a country gets attacked it seems fairly clear it has a right to defend itself. Now, this is a not a green light to ignoring the laws of war or the Geneva Conventions. Nor is it a green light to illegally occupy Palestinian lands. But it's not rocket science to understand the exact meaning of this sentence: it means that Israel can perform (proportionate) military operations to remove threats to its citizens. Now, one may disagree with that statement (and vote against in the UNGA), but its intent when communicated by US diplomats is quite clear. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 30 '23 at 16:24
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    Now, why the US doesn't do near as much to defend the rights of Palestinians (Hamas terrorists aside) would certainly be a valid question. But it isn't this question. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 30 '23 at 16:29
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    The lack of a more specific meaning and room for interpretation may actually be the point. – Relaxed Oct 30 '23 at 19:38
  • Incidentally, you seem to be contradicting yourself here: Is it trivial or is it questionable? If the fact that self-defense applies in this case is not obviously true then the statement is all the more meaningful as it plainly affirms that it does. – Relaxed Oct 30 '23 at 19:41
  • Somewhat related https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/82100/is-the-presence-of-the-us-forces-in-syria-contradictory-to-un-charter-articles-2/82108 – the gods from engineering Oct 30 '23 at 22:36
  • One additional problem with this question is that it is taking Albenese's statements, quoted in an Arab newspaper, from an interview she did with another Arab news channel as definitive with regards to international law. That is, to say the least, a charitable interpretation and even countries less Israel-supporting than the USA may also be skeptical. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 01:35
  • @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica: yeah, the slant of the Q is a bit obvious, but otherwise worth answering. The 'lawyering' related to article 51 happens in other contexts too. – the gods from engineering Oct 31 '23 at 03:32
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    "US never officially states the right of Palestine to defend itself" Maybe in the eyes of the US Palestine doesn't exist (as a country). That would explain the difference in treatment. – NoDataDumpNoContribution Oct 31 '23 at 10:48
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  • @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica actually I meant this question as what you say, "why the US doesn't do near as much to defend the rights of Palestinians". This is why I ask whether self-defense is considered as a universal principle or not. Maybe my phrasing was not clear enough. – Erwan Oct 31 '23 at 19:17
  • @Relaxed Hence the question, I'm actually confused about how to interpret the sentence. – Erwan Oct 31 '23 at 19:17

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The US is affirming that Israel can take actions when provoked

In most instances, the Israelis are responding to an attack, not provoking one. The cycle here tends to run as

  1. Palestinian groups (Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc) do something to kill Israelis
  2. Israel responds with targeted military action
  3. Multiple groups and governments condemn Israel for their response

Let's take your 2003 example

  1. Islamic Jihad bombs a restaurant in Haifa, killing 21 and injuring 60
  2. Israel responds by bombing the alleged headquarters near Damascus, Syria
  3. The UN condemned Israel's response

    Calling Israel’s reprisals for the attack in Haifa “repugnant”, several speakers from neighbouring Arab countries suggested that the air strike, in the context of an already shaky peace, could return the region to war and imperil international peace and security. Some said the armed reprisal was disproportionate and had proceeded from a political desire to destroy the peace process, illegally expand the conflict zone, and destabilize the entire region.

Most of the critics who tend to condemn Israel tends to downplay or even ignore the inciting incident. The US position taken by this statement is designed to run counter to that.

Is Israel's response legal?

As to if self-defense applies, the following quote was provided

there is jurisprudence of the International Court of Justice that says that self-defense cannot apply in a context of military occupation.

The problem with this is that Gaza is not occupied by the Israeli military as admitted by Hamas

In response to a statement by Hamas Politburo Chief Khaled Mashaal that Hamas will hold mass demonstrations against Israel inside Gaza to parallel those organized by the Fatah-controlled Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, Hamas Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar declared such a protest to be irrelevant. Al-Zahar stated that while the West Bank is "still under occupation" and that all forms of resistance, including armed resistance, should be used in that territory, "popular resistance is inappropriate for the Gaza Strip."

"Against whom could we demonstrate in the Gaza Strip?" al-Zahar asked. "When Gaza was occupied, that model was applicable."

The international law of occupation requires that a hostile army have "effective control" over a territory in an area where its authority can be exercised, and to the exclusion of the territory's established government. As foreign minister speaking on behalf of the Hamas government, al-Zahar is giving public credence to what has been a fact since September 2005 — that Israel is no longer in Gaza and that the Israeli government does not displace Hamas' authority. The assertion that Gaza is no longer occupied is strongly supported by international law derived from the Geneva Conventions and legal precedent. For Hamas to state otherwise would undermine its own power and would be a profound display of the weakness of its government.

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    Upvoted, but you did miss step 0: Israel does nothing to accommodate Palestinian national aspirations. Or upholding UN 242 or Oslo Accords. Or desist from building illegal settlements. Over decades. And, yes, Palestinian operations are most often deeply repugnant in their tactics and aims. But that still doesn't dispense with step 0 taking place. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 30 '23 at 16:41
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    @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica It's a different discussion, but there don't seem to be any viable peace partners, settlements or not. The Gaza withdrawal of 2005 was supposed to produce one but, unsurprisingly, did not. – Machavity Oct 30 '23 at 17:38
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    This answer would benefit from the added context that the UN and most countries do consider Gaza to be occupied (you might disagree, but it's surely relevant, for example https://www.ochaopt.org/country/opt) – Bug Catcher Nakata Oct 31 '23 at 00:28
  • "several speakers from neighbouring Arab countries" is not "the UN". Yeah, Germany too did the same them. We know who was chancellor then and how close he was to Russia. Chirac probably went along because of the other disagreements with Bush over Iraq etc. Somewhat interesting link from those days https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/middle_east-jan-june03-meeting_04-11 – the gods from engineering Oct 31 '23 at 11:05
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    @Fizz Maybe not, but anti-Israeli sentiment runs rampant in the UN and the antisemitism is well documented. UNRWA schools call for the murder of Jews – Machavity Oct 31 '23 at 12:21
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As you yourself note, the meaning is quite trivial: "Israel has right to defend itself like everybody [sic]". Indeed, the fact that the meaning is so trivial is an important part of why this phrase is so popular with US government spokespeople.

The vital thing to understand here is that "Israel has the right to defend itself" is not intended to be some deep political insight or bold manifesto. Rather, the purpose of this statement it to frame the whole issue in simple, uncontroversial, terms. This is a very common rhetorical technique, which you will notice a lot if you look for it. Other (fictional) examples might be:

  • Interviewer asks, "Mr Smith, should ordinary citizens be allowed to own heavy machine guns?" to which Mr Smith replies, "I believe that everyone in this country should be able to feel safe in their own home."
  • Interviewer asks, "Mr Jones, is your plan to give everyone free food really affordable?" to which Mr Jones answers, "Under our government, never again will our children die from malnutrition."

These are particularly obvious instances of the technique, but I think they illustrate its essentials. The interviewee attempts to frame a complex issue in simple terms to which no reasonable person is likely to object. Not many people are going to say "Actually, I don't think people should feel safe in their homes," or "I think it's a good thing that children starve to death". The framing, if accepted uncritically, protects the position from direct attack.

This method can be quite effective because:

  • As noted above, no reasonable person would disagree with the speaker's position, as they themself have framed it, so anyone who does disagree (no matter what the basis of their disagreement) can be portrayed as unreasonable.
  • By focusing on a single, uncontroversial, point the speaker alienates as few people as possible.
  • No interviewer has an unlimited amount of time, and many have very little time allocated, so the interviewee can usually bluster with meaningless filler for long enough to prevent their framing from being seriously challenged.
  • The reframing is quite often used as a soundbite, which in many cases is the only part of the interview that people hear.
  • The simplicity of the method means that even people who are poorly informed of the situation, or just interview badly, can easily employ it and give a reasonably solid response to pretty much any question.

You'll notice that I haven't really discussed Israel, Palestine, Hamas, the USA et al. much at all in my answer. That's because I don't think the particulars of the situation are all that relevant to your actual question. The US government has decided to adopt a certain position vis-à-vis Israel, for reasons beyond the scope of this answer. What you have really asked about, whether you realised it or not, is a rhetorical technique used to defend this position, not the position per se.

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It is as trivial as it seems: It means Israel as a country has the right to defend itself against attacks on its borders & citizens.

On 7.10., Israel was brutally attacked. Hamas - the terrorist group currently in control of Gaza - crossed Israels border to murder, torture, rape and kidnap Israeli civilians.


Francesca Albanese is rather biased here, and the idea that the core land of Israel is under military occupation is absurd & Israel has fully withdrawn from Gaza in 2005 (which has been in control of Hamas since 2007).

The idea that a "proportional" response would have to limit itself to the territory of the attacked state is also not correct.

Palestine also has that right of self defense. If Israel would start a war of aggression, they could defend themselves. Just as Israel, they have to abide by international law. That means among other not specifically targeting civilians (as Hamas does) & not hiding military operations behind civilian structures (as Hamas does).

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    Note also that Albanese makes a big deal of proportionate. But Geneva Conventions often use it in the context of "proportionate to military aims". If military aims are to remove Hamas, Palestinian civilians casualities are proportionate to that aim (do we bomb a house with a sniper and 10 civilians? do we do it if the sniper can otherwise be bypassed?). Not "proportionate to the original Israeli civilian deaths at the hand of Hamas". Which in any case Hamas knew an Israeli offensive to remove it was going to result in a lot of civilian suffering. Esp when using civs as shields. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 30 '23 at 16:55
  • see also links and comments on Fizz's answer – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:26
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One of the cagier political points here is that states have an accepted intrinsic right to defend their borders, but peoples have no intrinsic right to self-defense. When someone says that Israel has the right to self-defense, what they literally mean is that the state of Israel has an unlimited right to take action against attacks within its territory, just as any other state has. The Palestinians do not have an internationally recognized state, therefore they have no legitimized body that can claim the right to self-defense, therefore pretty much any state could bomb the hell out of the Palestinians with little more than a cranky complaint about human rights from the UN, so long as the bombing doesn't infringe on the borders of another state. That's more-or-less the same position the Jewish people were in before the creation of the state of Israel (and one of the major justification that Zionists have historically used to defend the creation of the state).

Of course, if there were international recognition of the rights of peoples to exists (backed up by UN interventions) then the situations we see now with the Palestinians (and Kurds, Uyghurs, etc) would not exist. But most states see recignition of peoples as a threat to their own sovereignty, so that's unlikely to happen.

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    Is the US denying Palestinians' right to self defense, or are they implying that Palestine is the aggressor? – bharring Oct 30 '23 at 17:03
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    @bharring: As I said, the international standard (not just the US) is that the Palestinian people have no intrinsic right to self-defense, because they are not associated with a state. Had the Zionists failed in the 1940s to drive out the Palestinians and establish the state of Israel, then the situation would be revered: the Palestinian state would have an intrinsic right to self-defense, and the Jewish people would not. I'm not suggesting it's fair, just, right, or moral (and indeed, I think it's none of those), but it is the case. – Ted Wrigley Oct 30 '23 at 18:50
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    @bharring Taken as what it is, neither. The US is basically just saying that Israel is a sovereign nation and it's not really the US's place to dictate how they handle their own affairs. They're not doing anything the US regards as intrinsically wrong by acting in their own defence. Zero comment on Palestine's rights or implication of aggression one way or another. – Rowan Oct 31 '23 at 08:41
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    "The Palestinians do not have an internationally recognized state". Debatable. But for the purpose of this Q it suffices that the US doesn't recognize it. Furthermore, Hamas is seen [in the West] as having illegally acquired power in parts of the Palestinian territories, namely Gaza. (Yeah, the circumstances how Hamas acquired power are debatable--was it a coup or a counter-coup against the [allegedly] West supported Fatah coup after the 2006 elections when Hamas gained a majority of seats.) – the gods from engineering Nov 01 '23 at 04:06
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    @Fizz: The Palestinian areas are generally considered territories by the international community, though many nations would be happy to recognize them as a state The difference between a territory and a state is that states are sovereign and territories are not. Territories may have an autonomous government, but they do not have the right to defend their land or borders (at least not from the state that claims them as a territory), and their self-governance is always (to some extent) conditional. The legitimacy of Hamas is beside the point; final authority still rests in Israel. – Ted Wrigley Nov 01 '23 at 06:56
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    Did you actually read the article I linked? E.g. "On 29 November 2012, in a 138–9 vote (with 41 abstaining) General Assembly resolution 67/19 passed, upgrading Palestine to "non-member observer state" status in the United Nations. The new status equated Palestine's with that of the Holy See." Yes, many small states don't have armies. – the gods from engineering Nov 01 '23 at 07:02
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This is hardly specific to Israel.

When Russia invaded Ukraine, the retaliation was justified in the same manner. I don't think US politicians felt the need to say this explicitly, because there were few Americans trying to defend Russia's action. But there are many Americans who are tring to paint Israel as the aggressor, for a variety of reasons (e.g. Israel is bigger and stronger than Hamas, and many tend to side with underdogs), so it's necessary to respond on Israel's behalf.

In each case, the difference is "who started it" -- which side made an unprovoked attack. Preemptive strikes are practically never justified, so the initial actions of both Russia and Hamas are condemned. But since nations have a right to defend themselves, retaliation is allowed by international law as a defensive action.

There are limits to the kind of retaliation that is acceptable, e.g. targeting innocent civilians is generally not allowed (but civilian casualties as collateral damage may still result). But the simple statement "Israel has a right to defend itself" is not intended to provide that level of nuance. It simply justifies the military response in general.

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    The question here is where do we draw the line that defines "initial". If we draw the line in October 7th, then it's obvious that Israel and Russia are defending themselves from the vicious, unprovoked attacks by Hamas and Ukraine. This, of course, requires forgetting which country is invading and illegally holding territory of another people, but it's not that we care, do we? – Rekesoft Oct 31 '23 at 08:33
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    While it may be true that Palestinians are oppressed within Israel, it's not a military or terrorist action like the Oct 7 attack by Hamas. Protests are certainly justified, much like Black Lives Matter in the US. But violent attacks and kidnappings of civilians are not, and that justifies Israel's military response. – Barmar Oct 31 '23 at 15:22
  • @Rekesoft Good point. I just found an article saying that an international tribunal found us guilty of genocide against blacks, browns, and indigenous people. But we've been at it for centuries, we've perfected the art of making excuses for it. – Barmar Nov 02 '23 at 16:00
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    @Rekesoft: Well, that's one way of framing the issue. Some people believe that Israel acquired the land fair and square, and that the Palestinians are just being sore losers about the 1948 and 1967 wars. – dan04 Nov 15 '23 at 23:09
  • This answer makes no sense. Israel is the analogue to Russia, and Palestine is the analogue to Ukraine. The war did not begin on October 7th, but long before; the events on October 7th were something more like (but not very much like) Ukraine's counteroffensive. – Reasonably Against Genocide Jan 18 '24 at 06:53
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    @user253751 There has been violence between Israel and Palestine for many years, but Oct 7 raised it to a new level, without any specific provocation. Also see dan04's comment regarding whether Palestinians are justified. – Barmar Jan 18 '24 at 17:15
  • @Barmar Some people believe Russia acquired Crimea and the Donbass fair and square, and Ukraine is just being a sore loser about the 2014 and 2022 wars. – Reasonably Against Genocide Jan 19 '24 at 09:03
  • @ReasonablyAgainstGenocide just to point out the obvious, the Ukranians never attacked Russian civilians following the Crimea annexation, nor have they perpetrated any war crimes on the Russian territory after the 2022 aggression. So if you're trying to draw analogies between the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Ukranian war with Russia - you'll need to try a bit harder to gaslight the Israelis, since they're objectively not the ones who started this war. – littleadv Mar 14 '24 at 18:52
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The ICJ decision mentioned by Albanese was taken in the (2004) case of the West Bank wall. I think Albanese overinterprets that ICJ decision as applying to the present circumstances in Gaza. Here's what it said (court summary):

Self-defence -- Article 51 of the Charter -- Attacks against Israel not imputable to a foreign State -- Threat invoked to justify the construction of the wall originating within a territory over which Israel exercises control -- Article 51 not relevant in the present case.

Furthermore, even if you do consider Gaza as occupied territory still (despite the Israeli ground troops withdrawal in 2005), then Israel has the right to conduct counter-terrorism or counter-insurgency operations there. As e.g. the US did in Iraq after their invasion, before formally turning over the gov't to Iraqis. Such operation are not prohibited by international law either, and in the practical dimensions they were a quasi-war too with air-strikes etc. The UN charter generally chalks off such matters as "internal affairs" under article 2(7).

If you want the almost funny version of this, the Russian ambassador took a similar position to Albanese

“The only thing [the West] can muster is continued pronouncements about Israel’s supposed right to self-defense. Although, as an occupying power, it does not have that power,” Nebenzya said.

He cited a 2004 advisory opinion by the Hague-based International Court of Justice (ICJ), which states that Israel cannot invoke the UN Charter’s article on the right to self-defense when acting against threats from occupied territory.

But then he immediately added

“We don’t deny Israel’s right to fight terror, but fight terrorists and not civilians.”

So one may apparently fight terrorists anywhere, incl. occupied territories (he didn't say Israel may not fight them there), but just not call it self-defense. (I guess Israel could call it a special anti-terrorist operation, to please the Russians.)

Also recall that after Bataclan, France invoked article 42(7) [common defense] of TEU, claiming it had been attacked by the IS. The legal international status of the latter has been pretty unclear--a self-declared state that nobody recognized, but which occupied substantial territory and against which a lot of countries fought against militarily. (And the analogy with Bataclan is quite appropriate.) That also didn't stop France from treating the Bataclan attackers as pure terrorists.

Essentially, "self-defense" has a broader vernacular meaning than article 51 of the UN charter as interpreted by the ICJ. You can self-defend [in the vernacular sense] against terrorists or insurgents or separatists in your own country (or occupied territories) even if that is not what the ICJ construes to come under article 51. So, [international] lawyers can quibble about the exact word to apply to Israel's armed response, but that makes little practical difference as to whether the response is permissible.

Perhaps instructive here is the French statement from 2019:

In accordance with ICJ case law, France does not recognize the extension of the right to self-defense to acts perpetrated by non-state actors whose actions are not attributable, directly or indirectly, to a State.

France has, in exceptional cases, invoked self-defense against an armed attack perpetrated by an actor having the characteristics of a “quasi-State,” as with its intervention in Syria against the terrorist group Daesh (ISIS/ISIL). However, this exceptional case cannot constitute the definitive expression of recognition of the extension of the concept of self-defense to acts perpetrated by non-state actors acting without the direct or indirect support of a State.

Is Hamas-in-Gaza a quasi-State these days? Probably. Anyhow, the US takes an even more expansive view on the right to self-defense against non-State actors. From the latter's viewpoint, it's probably enough to view Hamas as an armed group that attacked Israel, and the Palestinian Authority being "unable or unwilling" to control Hamas. So, there's little surprise the US doesn't make such extensively qualified statements (like France did there.)

FWTW, there is a 2nd/pending ICJ case wrt OPT. The UNGA request is broadly worded. We'll see if the ICJ treats Gaza separately/differently. But events on the ground might well overtake any court opinions.

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  • Can you link to 2004 West Bank references? I was wondering where Albanese pulled that from. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 30 '23 at 23:45
  • @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica https://www.icj-cij.org/case/131 – the gods from engineering Oct 31 '23 at 00:00
  • You really should quote what that relates to, which is building a wall around the Westbank and noting that the wall's approval should be rejected because its construction path amounted to a de facto illegal annexation of Palestinian territory. Unlike what Albanese claims, it hardly seems to correspond to a broad rejection of the right of self-defense in the context of an occupation. i.e. very little to do with Hamas getting stomped on. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:25
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    Lastly, the Court concluded that Israel could not rely on a right of self-defence* or on a state of necessity in order to preclude the wrongfulness of the construction of the wall, and that such construction and its associated régime were accordingly contrary to international law.* Nowhere does this state that "self-defense" (only appearing in that one sentence) is invalid, only that it can't be used to justify this wall. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:28
  • Also, Article 51 states in full : Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:35
  • Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:36
  • The word state does not appear in article 51, which makes an interesting contrast to Albanese's claims: “The right to self-defense that Israel has invoked under Article 51 of the UN Charter is quite clear. It entitles a state to repel an attack that comes from another state.* So, the action necessary to repel the attack must be based on its intensity and scope. And it must be proportional,”* – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:37
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    @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica: I really don't want to delve on that because I think is largely irrelevant. Even if Gaza is still deemed occupied (much bigger YMMV than in the case of the West Bank in 2004), there are other self-defense [in the common sense of the word] principles that apply-- which the UN chalks under 2(7) "internal affairs". – the gods from engineering Oct 31 '23 at 00:38
  • Well, the basic idea is that Albanese is serving up her own interpretation both of Article 51 and the 2004 precedent. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Oct 31 '23 at 00:39
  • As I managed to dig up this: to avoid calling IS a state, the UNSC called to "eradicate its safe haven". – the gods from engineering Oct 31 '23 at 01:16
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But the US never officially states the right of Palestine to defend itself

The answer to this question should also be a question:

When in history have the Palestinian people, tried to defend themselves?

The Palestinian people have no need to fight, since the US as well as all other western countries are ready to recognize a Palestinian state in the minute they manage to develop a government which is willing to recognize the Jewish state, denounce and counter terrorism effectively.

The Palestinian Authority has land, arms (provided by the US) and money (also provided by the US). Hamas has even sovereign land. Both parties, although through different tactics, are focused on annihilating the Jewish state rather than securing their own.

So if the Palestinians give up their intentions of annihilating Israel and its citizens - which is not self defense, they do not need to fight.

Late Israeli PM Golda Meir said: "If the Arabs put down their arms, there would be no war. If Israel puts down its arms, there would be no Israel".

How about Hamas joining the Abraham Accords?

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