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If authoritarian regimes are so bad, why do we see so many of them? I don't understand why they are so prevalent in the world. It can't be because people are gullible and don't recognize the situation. They have to have some knowledge.

Rick Smith
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    This is a good first approach to the issue and, although reality is always more complicated, the "No man rules alone" rule is very useful for understanding politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs&t=1031s – SJuan76 Nov 21 '16 at 00:37
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    "bad" is a very very debatable term. Arguably, authoritarian regimes are good for some people, or from certain points of view, in certain circumstances. Intelligence Squared held a debate on the topic, with some examples raised. – user4012 Nov 21 '16 at 03:36
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    They're not bad for the guy in charge. – Mark Nov 22 '16 at 00:19
  • Humans are a hierarchical species. That's why. – RonJohn Jun 01 '23 at 15:59
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    "They have to have some knowledge." but what are you going to do about it? – komodosp Jun 23 '23 at 14:15
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    Because under authoritarian regimes no one asks people, whether they like it or not. – Roger V. Jun 24 '23 at 12:43
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    For the same reason we see disease even though it's bad? Because we can't stop all bad things from happening. Maybe this question was ok to probe the scope of this site when it was still in beta, but it should be closed now. This is pure pontification. – wrod Jun 26 '23 at 19:17
  • If smoking is so bad, why do we see so many smokers? If crime is so bad, why do we see so much crime? If drinking is so bad, why do we see so many drinkers? If pedophilia is so bad, why do we see so many pedophiles? – user103496 Feb 16 '24 at 02:15

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Once you have an authoritarian regime, it can be difficult to get rid of it.

Consider what happens if you divide the populace into three groups:

  1. Those who benefit from the current regime;
  2. Those who might not be crazy about the current regime but don't trust potential alternatives either;
  3. Those who actively oppose the current regime.

You need the third group of people to be larger and more powerful than the first group to institute a regime change. Note that the first group almost always includes the military and the police (which may be part of the same organization).

Regime change usually happens when the regime does so badly that parts of the military move from the first to the third group. Also, it can help if things are exceptionally hard for the second group so that it's easy to move them into the third group.

Another problem is that even if a revolution occurs, it doesn't necessarily result in a non-authoritarian government. The nature of the beast is that an armed force that just successfully resisted the armed forces of an authoritarian government is as likely to replace the government with another authoritarian government as with a democracy.

One of the more famous would be the Russian Revolution. The Czars were gone, but the Soviet government replaced them. The King of Libya was replaced by Muammar Gaddafi. Hafez al-Assad consolidated power less than a decade after helping to push out the previous authoritarian government, and his son Bashar would later replace him.

If George Washington had been a different kind of person, the United States could be a kingdom. He chose to be president rather than King George the First. Now, we don't know what would have happened if he pursued that course. But it was at least a possibility at the time.

Revolutionary leaders are often popular. If they aggrandize power after the revolution, they can simply move in as authoritarian leader. They usually kill off or convert the supporters of the previous regime. If they can address some of the problems of the previous regime, they can even get a measure of popular support.

Brythan
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    Also keep in mind that other countries and international corporations may prefer a stable dictatorship to a democracy. In a democracy the rulers and laws may change unpredictably and create uncertainty. – liftarn Nov 21 '16 at 10:54
  • The 3rd group is usually almost by definition the largest, whether they are the most powerful often depends on whether they realize their power – haxor789 Jun 23 '23 at 14:16
  • "If George Washington had been a different kind of person, the United States could be a kingdom. He chose to be president rather than King George the First. Now, we don't know what would have happened if he pursued that course. But it was at least a possibility at the time." No... the nation was firmly a Republic. George Washington said "I did not fight George III to become George I" to justify why he was not going to run for a third term in office, which if he had, he had the numbers to win it. – hszmv Jun 23 '23 at 14:33
  • I'd note a kingdom isn't necessarily authoritarian. Half the top 20 of The Economist Democracy Index are constitutional monarchies. – AmiralPatate Feb 13 '24 at 09:21
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People don't always make rational, intelligent choices, and they don't always have the critical thinking abilities to recognize those choices, or manipulation of their emotions when it happens.

If you look at the times when authoritarian rulers or regimes are ascendant, they are often in times of change, turmoil, uncertainty or insecurity.

When people feel threatened or fearful (and what causes greater fear than the unknown?), they tend to react based on emotion instead of cold reason. Furthermore, beyond reacting based on emotion, authoritarian platforms/promises/appeals are based on dead-solid, simple certainty, which directly speaks to the very things causing uncertainty, even if, in the light of a more rational assessment, they really aren't solutions.

If you read John Dean's excellent Conservatives Without Conscience, which talks about the rise of authoritarianism in the GOP, he talks about how authoritarians aren't just the ones who demand fealty and obedience, there are also authoritarian followers, who crave that certainty and want a leader to follow.

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People seem to forget that a lot of authoritarian regimes happen because authoritarianism is a system that can allow for tyranny of the minority. I describe this in a previous answer, but Hitler & the Nazis were able to take over as dictator even though only 36% of the population of Germany liked them at the height of his popularity and even apartheid South Africa was a tyranny of the minority situation.

Despite what many people believe, there have been plenty of democracies throughout human history, showing that democratic societies are not exactly the outlier many have assumed. One example is the Nri Kingdom in Africa which was potentially founded all the way back in 900 AD and lasted until the year 1911; another is Frisian Freedom in Europe that lasted from 800 AD to 1523 AD. You also have the Essenes Jewish civilization from the 2nd century BC to 1st century AD, the Icelandic Commonwealth from 930 to 1262,Lanfang Republic on the island of Borneo from 1777 to 1884, the Free Imperial City of Memmigen from 1268 to 1802, the Republic of Cospaia from 1440 to 1826, the Taifa of Córdoba from 1031 to 1091, the Vajjika League in India from the 7th century BC to 468 BC, the Republic of Ancona made by an alliance of Jews and Catholics that wished to be less controlled by the Palpacy that existed from around 1000 AD to 1532 AD, late Carthage (apparently, according to the book Violence, Civil Strife and Revolution in the Classical City: 750-330 BC, Carthage became a democratic republic from 480 BC to 146 BC after internal politics led to the weakening of the monarchy), the Confederacy of Tlaxcala in Mesoamerica from 1348 to 1520, Sparta which had a form of democracy called range voting starting around 700 BC that allowed citizens over the age of 20 to vote for or against laws proposed by the kings, San Marino (which got its independence as a representative republic since 301 AD, but is mostly recognized as a country and not just a microstate when it created statutes in 1600 AD), Couto Misto from the 10th century to 1868, and the Novgorod Republic from 1136 to 1478 just to name a few. Basically, democracy has been around in a bunch of different places and had longevity and success, but authoritarianism can make it easier for someone with either good or bad intentions to take control even if the vast majority of people do not like them. That is pretty much why many people see authoritarianism as bad: there are some good Kings and dictators in history and they were able to help improve society, but is the system that allows for terrible leaders to basically end up in positions of Power with very few ways to remove them and even allow certain people to stay in charge even if the vast majority of people hate them for legitimate reasons.

Sure, in democracies you can worry about tyranny of the majority ( though the fact that democracies like the Nri Kingdom and Frisian Freedom lasted so long and fell due to external conquests shows we have had solutions to that for a long time), but authoritarianism often leads to tyranny of the minority and people who can stay in power even if the vast majority of people despise them.

People also forget that overthrowing a government is hard. Even in modern times, the odds of a successful violent revolution are only 26% and the odds only get lower the further you go into the past. This means that authoritarianism doesn't only make it easy for someone to consolidate power with only a small amount of genuine supporters, but it is a system that is very difficult for people to overthrow once it is in place.

This study from political scientists Stephan and Chenoweth is not perfect, but this peer-reviewed study generally shows how in recent history, about one in four revolutions succeed and they seem to be more successful on average in modern times because people are more well-educated and have somewhat of a better understanding of how disrupting Supply chains and other items can take down a government. As I have also pointed out before, many dictatorships work to keep members of their population ignorant such as how monarchies work to keep serfs ignorant, some dictatorships work to keep a slave-like population that they also keep ignorant, and how even dictatorships like the Soviet Union would present misinformation like claiming genetics is somehow capitalist propaganda because keeping a population ignorant and low on resources makes them easier to control.

Basically, one of the more cynical reasons that authoritarianism was popular at certain points in history is because it was a system that allowed you to control a large population even if a minority of people genuinely liked you or your policies. It allowed leader to be able to control essentially all of their nation's resources while only having to convince a minority of people. Generally, if you keep people ignorant with misinformation or preventing them from being educated, a lot of those people beneath you become easier to control and you have to worry less about a successful Revolution than you generally have to if well-educated people in a democracy are left unsatisfied. Also, well not as popular as they are now, democracies have been a thing for a huge chunk of human history even if they are not focused on.

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    Thanks for the explanation of the 26% success rate, though that still sounds kinda fishy, if I find the time I'd need to read the actual paper. – haxor789 Jun 23 '23 at 14:34
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Just re-read that answer and noticed it's quite longwinded, but someone upvoted so I'll leave as is below

TL;DR:

For democracy to get into place, the people who fought to get into power, possibly with a lot of blood, political power-play, some ruthlessness and a lot of determination to get their policies (which they usually believe to be correct and superior to the previous rulers) in place, would have to agree to risk giving it all up or back to their enemies at the ballot box - and so would their opponents. And as it is maturing they would have to stick with it through all the teething problems that make it look weak / ineffective.

Original answer

Democracy is difficult to set up - it kind of goes against the natural flow of the development of a power structure. It's a bit of a mistake to think that an Authoritarian government exists because the people want an Authoritarian government. Generally what happens is that powerful people at the top fight other powerful people until one group emerges the winner, they take power and put in place measures to make sure they don't lose it again. It's much harder to find powerful people who will fight with the same zeal even though they aren't determined to be in power themselves.

The problem is that even though the majority of people might want to be ruled in a democratic regime, the people in charge - i.e. the ones with the power and control (and therefore get to make the decisions) - want to continue to be in charge, and the problem with instituting a democracy is that they are the ones who would have to give up that power in order for democracy to take hold, and accept that their opposition may be in charge pretty soon. Not only would they have to accept this but so would all of the people who oppose them!

The entire population of the political system - including the leadership of the security forces - would have to agree to respect democracy and all the rules that it contains, until it becomes mature enough to accepted the "default" system. Plus, while it's still fledgling and trying to mature, it can appear weak, ineffective and disagreeable, and leave people wondering if a strong leader might not be better - at least they can get the trains running on time.

Also, keep in mind, many dictators (like with democratically elected leaders) believe that they are the best person to rule the country and want their policies instituted. For them to agree to democracy is basically agreeing to give all that up, and they believe that would make the country a much worse place. And if another faction succeeds in overthrowing them, then they carry a similar belief about themselves, and are as unlikely to institute democracy given it's opening the door for the enemy they just got rid of, to come back (an especially big fear if it was a violent coup)

And finally, while many people do want democracy, they also want their favourite policies to be implemented, so you're less likely to see people fighting for democracy when the current rulers are doing things they happen to like. (so you get the "Bread and Circuses" effect)

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First of all, if you've heard that authoritarian regimes are 'so bad', it was some popular press, not serious scientific source. No scientist source would say something is 'so bad'. Authoritarian regimes might be worse or less efficient under some criteria. If you compare how the given regime asserts economic and social equality and personal freedom, authoritarian regimes indeed do perform badly.

However, the stability of given regime is the outcome of internal and external balance of power, and not some arbitrarily chosen comparison criteria. Social inequality, poverty and restricting of personal freedom create strong tensions, but it doesn't mean, that tensions create a serious danger for the regime.

1) The ability of the regime to suppress rebels by force. No matter how unhappy people are, unhappiness doesn't win the wars by itself. See peasant rebels in middle ages - they were numerous, and all were suppressed by force. Hungry and desperated peasants were no match for well armed and trained knights.

2) The instability of non-authoritarian forms of government. Post-Tsar Russia, post-colonial Africa, South America - you find numerous examples, where the overthrowing of authoritarian regime has resulted in a short period of quasi-democracy, quickly replaced by dictatorships. Building democracy requires a huge amount of social capital - if there's no trust and no willing to accept other party winning the elections - the democracy is unstable.

3) External influences. In Europe between wars, there was a series of dictatorships arising. Dictatorship is usually more efficient in preparing and waging wars. One of the last democratic countries in Central Europe, Czech Republic, was the first to fall victim to non-democratic neighbors. In Cold War, both sides of conflict has sponsored armed groups in South America, sabotaging any potential democracy that could be born.

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  • Who said that was a "scientific" claim. Also what does that even mean in that context? Like whether something is "good" or "bad" is a moral judgement and a political question, science can only determine if a policy is effective with respect to a certain goal not whether it's "good". – haxor789 Jun 23 '23 at 14:11
  • A good example that comes to mind is the current state of affairs of the Central African Republic is somewhat lawless and disorganized that citizens who lived through the countrie's five year "Central African Empire" yearn for the days that "Emperor" Jean-Bédel Bokassa's brutal military dictatorship rule from 1976-1979. For those not in the know, Bokassa spent most of the government budget on his lavish lifestyle, and during a student protest, participated in the beating death of as many as 100-150 children arrested (like he beat children). + – hszmv Jun 26 '23 at 17:21
  • When he was finally returned from exile, he was found guilty of Treason and Murder (for the death of the Children) and got off on a technicality on charges of Cannibalism (I could not make this up if I tried. It is rumored that he fed visiting foreign dignitaries a meal made with human meat at his coronation dinner. A rumor he started by implying he did as much to the visiting French minister.). Again... this is a man who many who lived through his rule saw as a golden age for the nation... which makes one wonder how bad the state of affairs when "the cannibal had a point?" is common.
  • – hszmv Jun 26 '23 at 17:27
  • The idea that "Dictatorship is usually more efficient in preparing and waging wars" is not very scientific or evidence based. It is largely a myth promulgated by WW2 German propaganda. The Nazi war machine was, in reality, not very good at preparing for and waging war. Starting wars, perhaps, but once democracies got their act together they were far better. – matt_black Feb 13 '24 at 21:43