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Either what I'm looking for doesn't exist, or it's called something different than what I'm currently searching for.

I'd like to buy a camera for a friend of mine who spends a lot of time backpacking. In this situation, replaceable batteries (e.g. AA, AAA) are better than rechargeable batteries because most places worth hiking to don't have electricity. Even durability is nothing compared to having battery power available while on a long trip, and replaceable batteries provide that.

Most people shop for cameras based on image quality, megapixels, features, lenses, etc. So, I don't find it surprising that it's difficult to find/filter a list of cameras based on what kind of batteries they take.

But is there a different way to find what I'm looking for, or a special name for replaceable-battery cameras that I could use when I search?

mattdm
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Using the link @vclaw suggested, here's a list of cameras that take AA batteries.

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There aren't any particular terms for a "backpack friendly" camera other than portable. With hiking, space and weight are always the two primary factors, so it's up to the user to decide what is worth carrying. Some will cart a full DSLR and big optics for the performance they give and others will use their cellphone because it is already with them and has a "good enough" camera.

As for the idea that AA/AAA batteries are a better way to go than rechargeable batteries for the camera, you couldn't be further from correct. The weight and size to power ratio of most rechargeable batteries is FAR better than that of conventional AA/AAAs. I get significantly more power out of two LP-E6 batteries for my Canon 5D Mark iii than I get from 6 AAs and the two LP-E6 batteries are both smaller and lighter. It is more expensive to get enough of them to cover multiple days of shooting, but at around 4000 exposures for two of them, having even 4 is enough for a pretty significant amount of use. (Granted, a 5D mark iii is on the heavier side for hiking, but the same principals apply for smaller cameras.)

In terms of best quality for the size and weight, it's one of the few times that mirrorless can really shine. They have very light weight bodies and while not quite as capable as a DSLR, they can support solid quality optics. They aren't as rugged as professional grade DSLRs though, so if they are going to take abuse, a good ruggedized point and shoot may also be a decent option. Bringing a full DSLR may still be worth the weight though if you want the maximum quality.

You can also look into alternate power sources such as solar or there are even hydrogen fuel cell options that can provide sufficient power for most electronics and have an even better weight to power ratio for longer trips.

Update: seeing that this is for a friend rather than for yourself, the best option that will be cheaply available is probably to look for a cheap viewfinder camera if you can find one that will allow them to take photos without needing to use the screen. The screen is the biggest power drain on any camera that requires their use and most point and shoots require it for framing a shot. A viewfinder camera gives the general idea without needing to use the screen by approximating what the shot will look like, but tend to have a fairly basic feature set as the viewfinder doesn't look through the lens and thus can't zoom. The upside to that is that it means that the optics can be fairly simple and most of the money likely goes in to the sensor. It makes the camera a little less versatile, but probably increases quality of images (for the price) and durability (fewer moving parts).

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    I think you're missing the appeal of AA batteries, which is that you can carry an unlimited supply of power in a single 5-gram package, usually labelled "Visa", "Mastercard", or "Discover". – Caleb Sep 16 '13 at 22:02
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    @Caleb - Where there are stores, there is either a) normally electricity to recharge or b) a carry in/carry out policy that means you have to continue to carry all those batteries. Also, if the durability really has to be that high, then solar or hydrogen is still a better option for the weight in the majority of cases. (And rechargeable batteries will last for days if not weeks in a good camera depending on usage level.) – AJ Henderson Sep 16 '13 at 22:04
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    Yes, but then you have to carry the 130g charger with you, and sit around for a couple hours while the battery charges. You can dispose of your old AA's and buy new ones in minutes anytime you run into a gas station or convenience store. I'm not saying that you're wrong about power density, but you really have to admit that the ubiquity of the AA battery can be helpful. A spare or used pair of AA's weigh in at 30-60g, depending on type. – Caleb Sep 16 '13 at 22:09
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    Most decent cameras would take 4 to 6 AAs though and the set wouldn't last a day, so I guess it ultimately depends on what kind of performance and longevity you are looking for. If you are going with a very basic camera that can run on 2 AAs you have a good argument though. When it gets up in to having to carry 12+ AAs for a day, that goes out the window. – AJ Henderson Sep 16 '13 at 22:12
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    I think a DSLR isn't the kind of thing you buy "for a friend" without consulting them first, so I'm assuming point & shoot here. BTW, do you really get 2000 exposures per LP-E6 on your 5Dmk3? I get around 700 on my 6D, more (but not nearly 1300 more) if I turn off the rear LCD. Does turning off AF & IS make that much difference? – Caleb Sep 16 '13 at 22:18
  • @Caleb - whoops, missed that part, Agree with you there. If it's for a friend, chances are we are talking cheap and probably only a 2 AA user. And yes, I typically shoot weddings and I'll shoot 3500 photos in a 10 hour day and have 40% power left, so it' really over 2000 per. – AJ Henderson Sep 16 '13 at 22:19
  • That's 3,500 photos with 40% of both LP-E6 batteries in a grip? That figures at about 1,750 per battery with 40% left. – Michael C Sep 17 '13 at 03:49
  • @MichaelClark - yeah, it actually comes out closer to 3000 per battery if the 40% is accurate, but I figured 2000 per each is probably more likely if someone uses the screen more than I do. Yes, it's 2 batteries in a grip. – AJ Henderson Sep 17 '13 at 04:02
  • In the two bodies I have that use LP-E6 batteries I get a little over 2,000 shots per battery (OEM Canon or MaximalPower). That's with the screen off most of the time unless I'm changing settings or reviewing histograms should lighting conditions change. AF & IS are on most of the time with my lenses including the EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II which has a heavier than average optics train. – Michael C Sep 17 '13 at 04:43
  • @MichaelClark - sounds like our experiences are pretty close then. I've only done two days of really, really intense shooting thus far, so I may have just had a good day the one day. I've had other times when it's been closer to 3000 to hit 40% which is even closer to your numbers. Don't have enough data for an average yet. – AJ Henderson Sep 17 '13 at 13:24
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I have taken many backpacking trips and used several cameras. I don't think there is a special term for them, but look for one that is shock resistant. I took a video camera on the Continental Divide Trail, and a little stumble outside of the Ghost Ranch was all it took to shatter the display. so, my advice get a good case a be prepared for falls and weather that you might not need to consider if not backpacking.

Re: rechargeable batteries, solar charging units are getting pretty good and would provide a better long term use than having to carry multiple heavy batteries. Everything has to be carried and every ounce counts.

Continental Divide Pictures

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There are many cameras that can take either special batteries or standard sizes, often using an adapter. There's no special name for them. Reading product spec sheets is your best option (and should also tell you other things like size, weight, etc. etc. that can be very important).

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