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I noticed when my baby sisters are listening to a certain melody, I start singing Itsy Bitsy Spider or Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. This makes me wonder if they are the same melody with different lyrics.

Are they the same song?

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    I'd be interested to hear the piece of music that you're describing, because I cannot correlate the two melodies in my head. Among other differences, Itsy Bitsy Spider is a swing rhythm, wheras Twinkle Twinkle Little Star is straight. I cannot understand how they can be confused. Please link to the melody that made you think of both songs, if possible. – Doctor Jones Nov 07 '18 at 11:46
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    Are you thinking of Twinkle and the Alphabet song? Because those are the same, and IIRC are actually a melody by Mozart. – Duston Jun 07 '21 at 13:09
  • @Duston Mozart wrote a set of variations on that tune, but he did not write the tune. He knew the tune as Ah, vous dirais-je, maman, a French nursery song. There is a link in the comments below, which I will repeat here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_vous_dirai-je,_maman – phoog Jun 09 '21 at 01:13

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No. They are both simple melodies, but they're different.

This is Twinkle - Twinkle Little Star:

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This is The Itsy Bitsy Spider:

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  • This question reminded me of something, so I went on a hunt... the movie Heartburn, 1986 - Coming Around Again / Itsy Bitsy Spider - Carly Simon I'd forgotten just how good a song that was. – Tetsujin Nov 07 '18 at 08:46
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    On a related note, "Twinkle twinkle, little star" is basically the same melody as "Baa baa, black sheep", both of which are based on an 18th century French song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_vous_dirai-je,_maman – Guy G Nov 07 '18 at 10:43
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    @GuyG as well as the alphabet / "ABC" song, at least the version I've always heard here in the US. – sǝɯɐſ Nov 07 '18 at 12:59
  • Not quite the same as the "ABC" song, the way I learned it. 'S' and 'X' would both be half notes, rather than two quarter notes. Admittedly, that's an extremely minor change. – Donald.McLean Sep 27 '19 at 18:28
  • The melody is also often falsely attributed to Mozart. He did 12 variations on the French folk song Ah! Vouz dirai je maman (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezvj-De6bxY) That said, it’s quite cool to listen to. – Nishka Arora Sep 27 '19 at 15:28