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Is there an infinite field $k$ together with a polynomial $f \in k[x]$ such that the associated map $f \colon k \to k$ is not surjective but misses only finitely many elements in $k$ (i.e. only finitely many points $y \in k$ do not lie in the image of $f$)?

For finite fields $k$, there are such polynomials $f$. If such a poynomial $f$ exists, then $k$ cannot be algebraically closed; the field $\mathbb{R}$ doesn't work either.

  • Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you even say that if you have an embedding of an algebraically closed field into $k$, no such polynomial exists? – Harrison Brown Nov 25 '09 at 15:45
  • Why? I'm thinking of some kind of inverse limit of extensions of function fields over algebraic closure of finite field might occidentally work. – Dror Speiser Nov 25 '09 at 16:07
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    Why? Because I was being stupid and misread the question :D. I don't really see why that construction has any better chance than any other, but I concede it might work. – Harrison Brown Nov 25 '09 at 16:10
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    I am deeply impressed with the strong interest MOers show in the problem. So far we have 10 answers, 57 comments, 28 upvotes, and 11 favorites. We have no final answer but I guess I have to accept an answer because the bounty is going to end. I'll choose to accept the answer with the highest number of upvotes, albeit that answer was given before the bounty was released. Accepting the answer doesn't mean that I want to discourage people from further thinking about the problem. I just don't want to waste the bounty. The case of Hilbertian fields seems to be the current state of knowledge. – Philipp Lampe Dec 04 '09 at 10:39
  • Related question on MSE: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1792464 – Watson Jul 01 '18 at 09:51
  • I posted what I believe to be a proof of this result here on MSE. – cnpJj2dwc Nov 18 '19 at 22:43
  • This is a very nice question, so it seems worth pointing out that a similar question has already been asked. Reineke conjectured that if K is a field and the image of every non-constant polynomial in K[t] is cofinite then K is algebraically closed. I saw this in Frank Wagner's paper "Minimal Fields" (MR1812183). Reineke's conjecture implies Podewski's conjecture that a minimal field is algebraically closed. (a first order structure M is minimal if every definable subset of M is either finite or cofinite, algebraically closed fields are minimal by quantifier elimination). – Erik Walsberg Oct 16 '20 at 16:31
  • Maybe also worth pointing out that the Podewski conjecture is a notorious open problem, so Lampe's question is deep. – Erik Walsberg Feb 08 '21 at 20:42

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Since such a polynomial would have to have degree at least 2, its existence implies that the set of k-rational points of the affine line over k is thin in the sense of Serre's Topics In Galois Theory. It follows from the results presented in that book that this cannot be the case over any Hilbertian field. This includes finite extensions of Q, finite extensions of F(t) for any field F, and many other fields.

What about p-adic fields?

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Here is a simple (the simplest) argument for why it does not hold over any Hilbertian fields. But first recall that $K$ is Hilbertian if for any irreducible $f(T,X)\in K[T,X]$ there is infinitely many $t\in K$ such that $f(t,X)$ is irreducible in $K[X]$.

The argument: Let $f(X)\in K[X]$ be a polynomial over a Hilbertian field. Then $f(X) - T$ is irreducible in $K[T,X]$, thus $f(X) - a$ is irreducible for infinitely many $a\in K$.

Just to have a feeling here are some Hilbertian fields:
1. number fields
2. a finitely generated transcendental extension of an arbitrary field, in particular function fields
3. the family of Hilbertian fields is closed under
3a. finite extensions
3b. abelian extensions
3c. taking a finite proper extension of an arbitrary Galois extension
3d. extensions satisfying the diamond condition (see Haran's diamond theorem)

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Recently, I have shown with Hendrik Lenstra that there is no example when $k$ satisfies the following two properties:

  1. the absolute Galois group of $k$ is procyclic and $k$ is perfect;
  2. every geometrically irreducible normal projective curve over $k$ has infinitely many $k$-points.

For example, one can take $k$ to be an infinite algebraic extension of a finite field (use Hasse-Weil to see this).

I will put a proof on arXiv later, but here is a sketch:

  1. Consider $L=k(x) \supseteq K=k(f(x))$, a finite extension of function fields over $k$ (or for the geometers, a map from $\mathbb{P}_k^1 \to \mathbb{P}_k^1$) and it is a matter of counting how many $k$-points lie above a $k$-point of $K$ in $L$.
  2. Use Galois theory to study the extension $L/K$. Suppose $M/K$ is finite Galois with group $G$ such that $X=\mathrm{Hom}_K(L,M)$ is not empty. Then to every rational point $P$ of $K$ we can associate a Frobenius element $(P,M) \in G$ (using 1).
  3. An unramified point $P$ has no rational points above it iff $X^{(P,M)} = \emptyset$ (there is a statement for the ramified case as well). Suppose that this is the case for $P$. Hence it is enough to show that there are infinitely many rational points $Q$ of $K$ with $(Q,M)=(P,M)$.
  4. Give a version of the Chebotarev density theorem for such fields $k$: There is a geometrically irreducible function field over $k$ such that its rational points `correspond' to the rational points $Q$ of $K$ with $(Q,M)=(P,M)$.
  5. From assumption 2 and step 4 it follows that there are infinitely many points with the specific Frobenius element from step 3. Hence the result follows.
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  • Actually, with some changes I can prove the statement for a field $k$ with
    1. $k$ is perfect
    2. every geometrically irreducible normal projective curve over k has infinitely many k-points.

    The proof uses the statement that the exact sequence with the decomposition group and the inertia group splits.

    – Michiel Kosters Jan 21 '14 at 14:57
  • Koenigsmann proves this result in a more general setting. Namely he proves that if $K$ is ample, then the image of an irreducible separable polynomial of degree at most $2$ is NOT cofinite. See the argument in arXiv:1106.1310 after Conjecture 6.1. – Lior Bary-Soroker Feb 04 '14 at 11:38
  • I forgot to say that a field $K$ is called ample if for every smooth geometrically connected curve $C$ over $K$, the set of rational points $C(K)$ is either empty or infinite. This property is clearly satisfied for your fields, and also for other fields like complete fields, etc. – Lior Bary-Soroker Feb 04 '14 at 11:39
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Recently, I have shown the following theorem with Hendrik Lenstra.

Definition: A field $k$ is called large if every irreducible $k$-curve with a $k$-rational smooth point has infinitely many $k$-points.

Some examples of large fields are $\mathbb{R}$, $\mathbb{Q}_p$ ($p$ prime), $l((t))$ (where $l$ is a field), infinite algebraic extensions of finite fields. Furthermore, finite extensions of large fields are large.

Theorem: Let $k$ be a perfect large field and let $f \in k[x]$. Consider the evaluation map $f_k: k \to k$. Assume that $f_k$ is not surjective. Then the set $k \setminus f_k(k)$ is infinite (in fact, it has cardinality $|k|$).

See my arXiv article for a proof.

Michiel Kosters
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  • Does this generalize at all to maps $f_k \colon V(k) \rightarrow W(k)$, where $V,W$ are $k$-varieties (or $k$-schemes) and where $f_k$ is induced by a morphism $f \colon V \rightarrow W$? (And what if $f$ is a rational map?) – R.P. Apr 17 '14 at 13:36
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This isn't much, but let me sketch the argument that $\mathbb{Q}$ doesn't work. It suffices to show that given a polynomial $f$ of degree greater than $1$ which is, without loss of generality, primitive and in $\mathbb{Z}[x]$, there are infinitely many integers $k$ such that $f - k$ is irreducible.

Lemma: Suppose $f(x) \in \mathbb{Z}[x]$ is primitive and has the property that $f(0)$ is prime and greater than the sum of the absolute values of the non-constant coefficients. Then $f$ is irreducible.

Proof. The condition on the coefficients means that $f$ has no roots in the unit circle. On the other hand, since $f(0)$ is prime, every irreducible factor of $f$ has constant term $\pm 1$ except one, which will have constant term $\pm p$, and some the roots of the latter types of factor must lie in the unit circle; contradiction.

And we can find infinitely many $k$ such that $f(0) - k$ is a large prime. This proof should extend to finite extensions $K$ of $\mathbb{Q}$, since there are infinitely many primes that remain prime over the Galois closure of $K$ by Frobenius. (Although this is probably overkill.)

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First, here is another reason that hasn't been supplied a reason that a field could have the property that no polynomial is co-finite. If the field is $\mathbb{R}$ and a polynomial $f(x)$ has no real roots, then $f(x)+c$ doesn't either when $c$ is a small number. That's because the map from a set of roots in $\mathbb{C}$ to the corresponding polynomial is an open map, and $\mathbb{R}$ is a closed subset. I would suppose that there are other topological fields $k$ such that the algebraic closure $\overline{k}$ (or maybe some completion of it) has this open map property. [Edit: Actually GMS and DLS have already both suggested $p$-adic continuity arguments, which is a similar point about using topology.]

Second, it seems like the answers so far take the question the wrong away around. Let $f$ be a polynomial over a field $k$, and mark a set of values $A \subset k$. Suppose that you adjoin to $k$ some root of $f(x)-b$ for every $b \in k \setminus A$. Suppose that you keep doing that with the new field $k'$, and keep going forever to obtain a partial algebraic closure $\tilde{k}$. (It will not be the full algebraic closure because all extensions are bounded by $\deg f$.) Then does any $f(x)-a$ have a root in $\tilde{k}$, with $a \in A$? If not, then you have a counterexample. If this is unavoidable, then no counterexample is possible. The field $\tilde{k}$ seems far from unique as described. However, you could make a larger field by splitting $f(x)-b$ completely rather than by adjoining just one root.

[Edit: Removed a not particularly original thought about an obstruction coming from Galois groups.]


What I was really trying to do with the second point was not to propose a new construction, which I don't have, but rather to restate the question in an interesting way. The idea, in other words, is to attack a specific polynomial form $f(x) - c$ rather than to attack a specific field. Arguably the field is negotiable, because you can keep adjoining a missing root of each $f(x) - c$ when you want $f(x)$ to take the value $c$.

A first step, suggested by the failed example $f(x) = x^n$, is to make an equivalence relation $a \sim b$ if $f(x) - a$ and $f(x) - b$ are both irreducible and adjoining one root produces isomorphic fields. If the equivalence class of $a$ is infinite, then it can't work as an avoided value.

For example, all cubic polynomials are equivalent (up to adding a constant or a linear change of variables) to $x^3$, $x^3+x$, and $x^3+px$ where $p$ is some fixed non-square. Say $p=1$ in the second case. In the field $F(x)$ with $x^3 + px + q$, any element $y = 3x^2+\alpha x+2p$ has trace 0 and minimal polynomial $y^3+(9\alpha q+\alpha^2p-3p^2)y+r$ (according to Maple). I think that there are many ways to choose $\alpha$ to make the linear coefficient a square times $p$, and thus get $z^3+pz+c$ back again after rescaling $y$ to make $z$. If this is correct, then $f(x) = x^3+px$ is eliminated from contention and thus cubic polynomials are eliminated from contention. (But note that my brief calculation for the last step assumes that the characteristic is not $2$.)

I wouldn't know how to show how any of these $f$-equivalence classes are ever finite. If that did happen, you would then want to look at whether two or more field extensions at attained values would capture a field extension at a value that you want to avoid.

  • I have the feeling that your $\tilde k$ is Hilbertain, if $k$ is (and $A$ is sufficiently large). Here is the rough uncompleted idea: choose a partition of $A$ into two subsets say $A_1$ and $A_2$. Let $M_i$ be the compositum of all splitting fields of $f(X)-a$, $a\in A_i$.

    I think that if $A$ is sufficiently large, and $A_1$ and $A_2$ are chosen wisely, we could get that $\tilde k$ is not contained in neither $M_1$ nor $M_2$. But clearly it is contained in $M_1M_2$. Thus by Haran's diamond theorem (see link in my post) $\tilde k$ is Hilbertian.

    – Lior Bary-Soroker Nov 30 '09 at 14:12
  • By construction, $f(x)-c$ has a root cofinitely in $\tilde{k}$. So are you telling me that $f(X)-T$ is reducible?? – Greg Kuperberg Nov 30 '09 at 14:20
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  • From comments below you'll see you are not the first or even second to propose trying to build such a construction. 2) Other answers certainly do address this reason for a polynomial not working over the reals. 3) Restating the problem is not an answer.
  • – Dror Speiser Nov 30 '09 at 14:49
  • Greg, how did you understand from what I wrote that $f(X) - T$ is reducible? Clearly it is irreducible. What I'm saying is that your $\tilde k$ is Hilbertian, i.e., there exists $a\in \tilde k$ such that $f(X) - a$ is irreducible. – Lior Bary-Soroker Nov 30 '09 at 15:06
  • (1) My main point is that what everyone else (including me at first) meant merely as a construction is more properly understood as a tangible restatement of the problem. (2) My first point is about topology, with R meant only as an example; but I see that GMS made a similar p-adic argument and I apologize that I missed it. (3) If a popular construction is promoted to an equivalent problem statement, then hopefully that is a useful remark. I would hope that we have room for those if no one solves the problem? – Greg Kuperberg Nov 30 '09 at 15:10
  • Lior: I am throwing in a root of $f(X)-b$ for every $b \in \tilde{k}$ inductively provided that $b \notin A$. So yes, $a$ such that $f(X)-a$ is irreducible might exist, but there are only finitely many of them, contrary to Hilbert's result. – Greg Kuperberg Nov 30 '09 at 15:16