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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/19/john-oliver-clarence-thomas-supreme-court/72662536007/

TV personality John Oliver has publicly offered to pay Justice Clarence Thomas to resign his seat on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Does paying a holder of public office to resign constitute bribery?

Michael Hardy
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    As an aside, one point that this mostly comedic offer makes, is that judges are often influenced to resign by money. The predominant cause of resignation from office by U.S. federal judges below the SCOTUS level is eligibility for pension benefits. The second biggest one is probably an offer of higher paying employment in a real job elsewhere (or possibly extreme old age and/or poor health). Controversy or allegations of misconduct are probably only in about fifth place as a reason to resign. – ohwilleke Feb 21 '24 at 20:23
  • Judge Cormac J. Carney begs to disagree. – Jon Watte Feb 22 '24 at 05:06
  • @ohwilleke : When a judge resigns in order to take a job that pays ten times his judge's salary, the salary is not paid for the resignation but for the work the former judge does, so the resignation is not consideration for the high salary. It is presumably not for the purpose of removing the judge from the bench that the high salary is paid. Except, I suppose, when it is for that purpose. – Michael Hardy Feb 22 '24 at 17:20
  • I suggest adding a jurisdiction. It could well be in some [other]. – the gods from engineering Feb 22 '24 at 21:20
  • How could it not? Paying a holder of public office to do anything is pretty-much the perfect text-book case of bribery.

    Even if the officer was about to quit with no help from you, paying for the resignation would still be bribery and corruption.

    – Robbie Goodwin Feb 22 '24 at 22:04
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    @RobbieGoodwin : If you pay the governor to mow your lawn, I don't think that's bribery. Paying a holder of public office to do something with the powers he holds in virtue of his public office is bribery. – Michael Hardy Feb 23 '24 at 02:45
  • @MichaelHardy Do you truly believe 'paying a holder of public office' doesn't normally include paying that one 'as holder of said office…' and not in a private capacity?

    That would not exclude said officer from corruption charges, and not simply because paying the Governor to mow your lawn is so unfeasible it would more than likely raise red flags in tax- as well as law-enforcement agencies.

    How will you convince a judge that payment for mowing the lawn did not pre-dispose the Governor to your side in (anything)?

    – Robbie Goodwin Feb 23 '24 at 18:58
  • @RobbieGoodwin : How about a member of a city council in a small town, where such a position is not a full-time job? Such a person has a day job and gets a salary for it. – Michael Hardy Feb 23 '24 at 23:32
  • @MichaelHardy Thanks and when you first clear up every secondary query in that scenario, please come back and say what's left.

    If what matters is that the person is a member of a city council, how could the size of the town come into this?

    What did not work for you about my previous query, 'Do you truly believe "paying a holder of public office" doesn't normally include paying that one "as holder of said office…" and not in a private capacity?

    Again, how will you convince a judge that any payment did not pre-dispose the Governor to your side in (anything)?

    – Robbie Goodwin Feb 23 '24 at 23:45
  • @RobbieGoodwin : The size of the town is relevant because in a very large city the position of a member of the city council might be a full-time job, whereas in a very small town such a person would be paid for a full-time job in some other capacity. – Michael Hardy Feb 24 '24 at 05:33
  • @MichaelHardy Thanks and when you're trying to figure how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, clearly the size of the head matters.

    Again 'Do you truly believe "paying a holder of public office" doesn't normally include paying that one "as holder of said office…" and not in a private capacity? Again, how will you convince a judge that any payment did not pre-dispose the Governor to your side in (anything)?'

    – Robbie Goodwin Feb 24 '24 at 18:08
  • @RobbieGoodwin : How will you convince a judge that the council members salary for his full-time job working as an electrical engineer does not influence his votes ont he city council? This situation of being employed full-time elsewhere while serving on the city council is the usual situation is very small towns. And I have been polite and respectful to you and you should do the same. – Michael Hardy Feb 25 '24 at 17:36
  • @MichaelHardy Thanks and I'm just trying to stop the much more important general principle being confused by a special case, which might have merit in other circumstances but seems hardly even peripherally relevant in your OQ.

    The lawn-mower man is clearly not being paid as a public official, nor for his resignation… except in the absurd example where you really do pay him $1 million to resign, and the two of you conspire to hide the deal with bogus invoices for gardening services.

    Even so, many councillors might recuse themselves from discussion of their paying client's own affairs.

    – Robbie Goodwin Feb 26 '24 at 14:40

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Proabably NO

18 USC § 201 deals with bribery of public officials

(b) Whoever—

(1) directly or indirectly, corruptly gives, offers or promises anything of value to any public official or person who has been selected to be a public official, or offers or promises any public official or any person who has been selected to be a public official to give anything of value to any other person or entity, with intent—
(A) to influence any official act; or
(B) to influence such public official or person who has been selected to be a public official to commit or aid in committing, or collude in, or allow, any fraud, or make opportunity for the commission of any fraud, on the United States; or
(C) to induce such public official or such person who has been selected to be a public official to do or omit to do any act in violation of the lawful duty of such official or person;

A would be the probable trigger here


Are considered public officials

(a) For the purpose of this section—
(1) the term “public official” means Member of Congress, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner, either before or after such official has qualified, or an officer or employee or person acting for or on behalf of the United States, or any department, agency or branch of Government thereof, including the District of Columbia, in any official function, under or by authority of any such department, agency, or branch of Government, or a juror;

A Supreme Court Justice is a public official for the purpose of the section


An official act is defined as such

(3) the term “official act” means any decision or action on any question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy, which may at any time be pending, or which may by law be brought before any public official, in such official’s official capacity, or in such official’s place of trust or profit.

In McDonnell v. United States, the Supreme Court opined that (emphasis mine) :

[A]n “official act” is a decision or action on a “question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy.” The “question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy” must involve a formal exercise of governmental power that is similar in nature to a lawsuit before a court, a determination before an agency, or a hearing before a committee. It must also be something specific and focused that is “pending” or “may by law be brought” before a public official. To qualify as an “official act,” the public official must make a decision or take an action on that “question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy,” or agree to do so. That decision or action may include using his official position to exert pressure on another official to perform an “official act,” or to advise another official, knowing or intending that such advice will form the basis for an “official act” by another official

Since resigning is not a formal exercise of governmental power that is similar in nature to a lawsuit before a court, a determination before an agency, or a hearing before a committee, it is not an official act

Nicolas Formichella
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    It would be amusing if Thomas decided to retire in a couple of days, and before he could tell anyone that, Oliver makes this offer and Thomas accepts. So Thomas collects Oliver's money and steps down, doing just what he had decided to do anyway. – Michael Hardy Feb 21 '24 at 17:42
  • Resigning is a formal exercise of government power since if forces another official (the President) to take an official action (nominating a replacement) – Dale M Feb 21 '24 at 20:56
  • @DaleM The president can just decide to not nominate anyone, it's not forcing anyone actually. Having someone else do something is not like a lawsuit/determination/hearing – Nicolas Formichella Feb 21 '24 at 21:07
  • Resigning is neither advice to nor pressure on another official
  • – Nicolas Formichella Feb 21 '24 at 21:14
  • John Olivers offer could be marginally changed into an offer for a new job for Justice Clarence Thomas with some purely symbolic job duties as long as the contract prevents him from staying on the supreme court. I can't see anything illegal in offering to pay someone 1 million $ a year to say water the flowers in their garden once per year. – quarague Feb 22 '24 at 08:40
  • If I was defending such an action, I would call out "corruptly gives" - and would argue that an offer made publicly did not meet this criteria. – MikeB Feb 22 '24 at 12:58
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    Even if this doesn’t violate any current laws, if this practice became widespread and weaponized as a political tool for reshaping the Court, I have to imagine it could lead to new laws unless both sides of the aisle decided it was mutually beneficial to let it continue to be legal? – bob Feb 22 '24 at 17:58
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    @bob: The question is on the table whether or not this judge is corrupt though. So it makes sense to watch and see how it plays out today. – Joshua Feb 22 '24 at 19:23
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    @DaleM I disagree. If one government official forcing another to take any action constituted an official act then adopting a child would be an official act because it forces government officials to issue a birth certificate, adjust benefits and possibly pay, and probably more things I can't think of. Adopting a child is clearly not an official act. – phoog Feb 23 '24 at 11:36
  • @phoog those are clearly private acts. Resigning your official position- not so much. – Dale M Feb 23 '24 at 12:02
  • @DaleM I would argue that resigning your position is clearly a private act as well – Nicolas Formichella Feb 23 '24 at 15:21