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Hypothetically, if someone who owned a school bus legally drove said school bus to a bus stop 3 minutes before the stop would ordinarily be made, allowed schoolchildren to board without speaking, then proceeded to drive them to their normal destination of school, unharmed, would this possibly result in charges being levied?

If so, what charges could be brought against such an individual?

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    I'd think that the question title is a bit misleading. Surely, luring children into a bus under false premise wouldn't count as "harmlessly appearing to be", would it? Much like sticking my reproductive organ into a drunk, unconscious woman wouldn't count as "tripped and fell on her, accidentially". Maybe that's just me, but I see nothing harmless in that endeavor. – Damon Dec 13 '19 at 13:52
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    @Damon: the OPs premise states the kids will be driven to the school unharmed, so we can take it as a fact there aren't other more dangerous motives, so the comparison to a rapist is not relevant. – whatsisname Dec 13 '19 at 16:03
  • public nuisance, deception, nullum ius sine actione? – dlatikay Dec 13 '19 at 16:33
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    @whatsisname : I read Damon's comment to be pointing out the difference between "appearing" and taking a series of specific, non-trivial actions; i.e., acting like a school bus driver by allowing the children to unknowingly board a bus that is not actually their bus and driving them to school far outstrips the usual meaning of "appearing" – landru27 Dec 13 '19 at 16:33
  • A jury could very easily decide that such an individual was impersonating the bus driver, who is technically a public official. – chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- Dec 13 '19 at 18:16
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    Bus drivers are not public officials in most of the world. They are private employees who work for companies performing contracts for government. @chrylis-onstrike- –  Dec 13 '19 at 20:28
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    This sounds like "pen testing" the security of children who take the bus to school. I would not expect this person to gain the support of anyone during the ensuing legal situation. – Aaron Cicali Dec 13 '19 at 21:45
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    @EricDuminil This question baffled me, but then I remembered that there are people with obsessions with certain modes of transportation. Sam, I hope you were not even remotely considering this yourself, and are just morbidly curious or doing research for a script. Legality aside, there would be serious ethical offenses, including infliction of emotional distress. While they might be "unharmed" physically, it would inevitably be noticed before long, and even if delivery was made before panic erupted, it'd leave parents and children shaken. – Jacob C. Dec 13 '19 at 21:53
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    Real life analogy. Guy near me is obsessed with, and owns, an old ambulance. He even picks his kids up from school in it and dresses as a paramedic. Whilst AFAIK he has no nefarious intentions, one of my friends genuinely believed he was a paramedic and thought it was weird he’s allowed to take the “works car” home. You can see the potential for (life threatening) misunderstandings there. Anyway, I look forward to reading about your japes in the news. – Darren Dec 14 '19 at 03:43
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    Please tell me you aren't asking this question from a police station. – Richard Dec 14 '19 at 09:24
  • Imagine a kid mistaken an adult for a friend's parent and asks for a ride home. I have a hard time imagining it being a crime to give that kid a ride. – d-b Dec 14 '19 at 15:54
  • Even if it is not a crime, section 5150 of the CA WIC allows a California Peace Officer, on probable cause, to detain and transport a person to an appropriate facility for psychiatric evaluation on the basis that they may harm others, or themselves, or cannot take care of themselves. – Paul Dec 15 '19 at 01:06
  • Luring a child into a vehicle when you do not have consent of the child's parent or guardian is a crime in many jurisdictions that will put you on the sex offender registry just for intending the child to enter your vehicle without any objectively reasonable basis to believe their parent or guardian approved. – David Schwartz Dec 15 '19 at 23:50

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Setting aside kidnapping, child-endangerment, etc., there are a host of laws requiring the bus and the driver to have special licenses (ie, a commercial drivers license), inspections (including a physical and regular drug tests), training, insurance and so on. Breaking any of these laws is a crime. In most states, these crimes are treated as misdemeanors or gross misdemeanors, so the largest penalty will be something like a year in jail and/or $5,000 fine.

In other words: Even before the prosecutor gets to the serious stuff, the driver is in trouble.

For those of you who want to dig into the details, this page breaks out what you need to do to become a school bus driver in CA. This page links to the manuals for drivers and buses in WA, along with a list of all of the specific laws and administrative codes involved.

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    Assume that the driver has a CDL and the vehicle is licensed. The guy can legally drive the bus. Now add children: what specific laws were broken? Pick your favorite jurisdiction. – user6726 Dec 13 '19 at 00:35
  • I mean the guy has a CDL so can legally drive over 16 passengers, or 26,001+ pounds, nothing specifically about school children. The vehicle is a former school bus and is street legal. But it is not used as a school bus (let's say it's a grunge band bus). – user6726 Dec 13 '19 at 02:12
  • Isn't a school bus driver considered a government employee? And what about child endangerment? – User37849012643 Dec 13 '19 at 03:38
  • @User37849012643 It depends on who the driver works for. If he's hired by the district, he's a government employee. If he works for a private company that contract with the district, he's not a government employee. – Just a guy Dec 13 '19 at 03:41
  • @User37849012643 I don't know enough about child endangerment to say. I don't know what I don't know, so anything I say is likely to be completely wrong. I only talk about licensing, etc. because it's easy to check and make sure I'm not making stuff up. I worry about getting fooled by mis-reading statutes when I have no idea how they are applied in the real world. – Just a guy Dec 13 '19 at 03:47
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    @Justaguy Most of these laws seem to rely on him being an actual school bus driver. In this scenario he's not a school bus driver, just a guy driving a car that looks like a school bus (but isn't actually affiliated with any school). He'd probably need the right kind of license to operate a vehicle that large, but he doesn't have to undergo any of the inspections that city bus or school bus drivers undergo because he isn't one. – Omegastick Dec 13 '19 at 09:56
  • "if someone who owned a school bus legally drove" - doesn't this imply he's a licensed bus driver? – komodosp Dec 13 '19 at 11:12
  • @colmde not necessarily. For instance, in the document linked in this answer, regulations governing school buses define a school bus as a vehicle "regularly" used to transport students. So long as this weird stunt was a one-off, any legal trouble it attracted would not necessarily include regulations governing school buses. – Will Dec 13 '19 at 13:23
  • Wouldn't the parents of the children have also signed a release granting permission to the school bus company to transport their kids? Rando-with-a-school-bus, not covered by the release, does not have that permission. – Seth R Dec 13 '19 at 16:43
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    why on Earth are you "setting aside kidnapping, child-endangerment, etc."?!? to the parents of the children to whom this happens, the technical details about CDLs, inspections, insurance, and so forth are going to be the least of their concerns : in the imagined scenario, their children were under the power of a person not authorized to be in that position; and, the parents aren't going to be okay with it if it happens again but this time the driver happens to have a CDL, etc. -- kidnapping, unlawful imprisonment, child endangerment, and related matters are at the heart of the matter – landru27 Dec 13 '19 at 16:57
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    @landru27 I don't think the answer is intending to suggest that those other matters aren't relevant. Instead, the answer seems to be suggesting that there are already illegal actions being taken before you even get to that point. The answer says "Even before the prosecutor gets to the serious stuff." This answer does no belittle the serious problems, it simply attempts to point out other additional problems. – Aaron Dec 13 '19 at 17:06
  • @landru27 Aaron is right. I am not saying that other stuff is unimportant. In fact, I explicitly say it is "the serious stuff." As I explained in an earlier comment, I don't know enough about criminal law to give the correct answer without doing a lot of research. I figured someone else could (and would) answer that part of the question. (FWIW, in the prosecutor's office, not everyone would be working on the "serious" stuff. Someone would have the job of dealing with the stuff I cover.) – Just a guy Dec 13 '19 at 17:38
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    @Aaron and Just a guy : I stand corrected, and I apologize; in retrospect, I misread "setting aside ..." in light of the OP using "appearing" to describe actively driving off with children and Ruther Rendommeleigh, below, characterizing such abduction as "simply being in a vehicle that you can leave at any point" -- as if using harmless-sounding words changes the nature of one's actions; context matters enormously, and I mistook your opening phrase as ignoring that context; it's my fault ... but would you consider re-phrasing it as "In addition to ..."? in any case, thanks for your feedback – landru27 Dec 13 '19 at 18:00
  • @landru27 Given the nature of the discussion, I think getting upset is completely justified. I think more people should get so upset about such things, the world might be a better place if everyone took it seriously enough. – Aaron Dec 13 '19 at 18:07
  • "there are a host of laws requiring the bus and the driver to have special licenses" Can you cite them? – Acccumulation Dec 13 '19 at 21:32
  • @Acccumulation The last link in the last sentence of my answer gives "a list of all of the specific laws and administrative codes involved" in school bus & driver regulation in Washington state. – Just a guy Dec 15 '19 at 18:23
  • @user6726, Re "But it is not used as a school bus (let's say it's a grunge band bus)", In Ontario, it's doesn't matter how it's used; it's whether the words "School Bus" appears on the vehicle or not maters. You need a certain class of license if it says that, and a lower class if it doesn't. (The number of seats also matter, so if you buy a school bus, repaint it, and remove most of the seats, it's just one step up from what you need to drive a car instead of 5 steps up for a school bus.) – ikegami Dec 15 '19 at 20:32
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In Washington, it would be unlawful imprisonment but not kidnapping. To kidnap, one must abduct, which

means to restrain a person by either (a) secreting or holding him or her in a place where he or she is not likely to be found, or (b) using or threatening to use deadly force

That is not the case in this scenario. "Restrain"

means to restrict a person's movements without consent and without legal authority in a manner which interferes substantially with his or her liberty. Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by (a) physical force, intimidation, or deception, or (b) any means including acquiescence of the victim, if he or she is a child less than sixteen years old or an incompetent person and if the parent, guardian, or other person or institution having lawful control or custody of him or her has not acquiesced.

When you are in a vehicle, your movements are restricted, and given that this is children (unless this is high school kids), it is without consent. One is

guilty of unlawful imprisonment if he or she knowingly restrains another person.

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    Does the answer assume that the passengers would be prevented from leaving? I don't see how simply being in a vehicle that you can leave at any point would restrict a person's movement. – Ruther Rendommeleigh Dec 13 '19 at 11:59
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    @RutherRendommeleigh "at any point" such as when driving fast enough that jumping out would probably result in serious injury? And that's without knowing whether the bus has doors that lock when in motion. – Chris H Dec 13 '19 at 12:02
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    @Chris H - Where I live, people don't usually jump out of moving vehicles, they ask the driver to stop and open the door. – Ruther Rendommeleigh Dec 13 '19 at 12:06
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    If they refuse to let you out, that is a problem, yes. – Ruther Rendommeleigh Dec 13 '19 at 12:07
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    @RutherRendommeleigh apart from the old London Routemaster bus that's my experience too. I'd be surprised if a school bus driver would stop at an arbitrary point to let a passenger off, so an imposter could probably get away with it. – Chris H Dec 13 '19 at 12:09
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    @RutherRendommeleigh : where I live, school children who believe they are being driven to school by their school bus driver don't normally "ask the driver to stop and open the door"; first, we're talking about minors here -- c.f., read the italicized part of the above answer; second, the imagined scenario would not be happening in some arbitrary, disinterested vacuum -- do you really think the law and the community in which this happens are just going to shrug it off? – landru27 Dec 13 '19 at 16:47
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    Your evidence seems to be counter to your point about kidnapping. "holding him or her in a place where he or she is no likely to be found": check. "deception": check, therefore "without consent": check, therefore "abducted": check, therefore "kidnapped": check. Your quoted criteria for kidnapping has been met. – Aaron Dec 13 '19 at 17:12
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    @aaron I think you are confusing the legal definitions of "abduct" and "restrain." As User6726 points out, "abduct"" requires that the person be hidden, while "restrain" requires all the things you've checked off. Since kidnapping = abduct and unlawful imprisonment = restrain, I think you have proved 6726 is right that this would be unlawful imprisonment, not kidnapping. (PS This is why I did not discuss criminal law in my answer. Not only does it turn on the exact statutory language. It also depends on how courts have interpreted that language, which I know nothing about ) – Just a guy Dec 13 '19 at 17:37
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    @Justaguy I just went with what the answer provided. "holding in a place not likely to be found" or "hidden" seems to be part of the scenario. I would certainly argue that the children are not likely to be found for the entire duration of the interaction. So I still think it meets kidnapping. – Aaron Dec 13 '19 at 18:04
  • @Aaron I see your point. Again, this is why I steered clear of the criminal law part of this question. – Just a guy Dec 13 '19 at 19:34
  • @RutherRendommeleigh, Washington state again: drivers are routinely charged with unlawful imprisonment if they refuse to stop and let a passenger exit the vehicle. (Typical scenario: police officer tries to pull over a car for speeding, boyfriend decides to run for it, girlfriend tells him to stop so she can get out, he refuses and keeps driving. Quick way to turn a speeding ticket into multiple felony charges.) – Mark Dec 13 '19 at 22:04
  • I'm skeptical. This implies any normal city bus driver would also be guilty if they let anyone under 16 on without parental permission, doesn't it? – D M Dec 14 '19 at 04:21
  • @DM the difference here is that a form of deception was utilized and that the child believes it is a school bus. Though you are correct in that a person getting on a bus does not normally violate this. – user64742 Dec 16 '19 at 04:50
  • @TheGreatDuck "any means including acquiescence of the victim, if he or she is a child less than sixteen years old". So, what the child believes is irrelevant, it would seem. – D M Dec 16 '19 at 05:20
  • @DM I imagine that the difference there is that public transportation is not considered acquisition of the child in the same sense as a random man posing as a bus driver. Furthermore, if the child were to ask to leave the bus, then barring physical inability or safety concerns (you are on a 40mph road at the moment in heavy traffic) the driver would let them leave. In that way it wouldn't be restraining them in any way. I find this very hard to believe as I imagine MANY children use public transport systems to go to places such as the library, without the driver having proof of consent. – user64742 Dec 16 '19 at 05:30
  • @TheGreatDuck You think a school bus driver would let a kid out at any other place than the school? Because I'm thinking they wouldn't. Regardless, we can assume that the fake driver will behave the same as a real driver. – D M Dec 16 '19 at 05:44
  • @DM I'm referring to a regular bus driver driving a public bus. You said that a regular (non-school) bus who lets under 16 passengers board without parental consent is on the hook for committing the crime of restraint. That was my counter-argument. Obviously the person impersonating a school-bus is in a different situation and would probably be at least in violation of that law (even if everyone chooses to let them off that one hook). – user64742 Dec 16 '19 at 05:46
  • @TheGreatDuck OK. But it's unlikely that any of the kids will ask to leave (unless they somehow figure out that something is up.) If they do, I guess the fake driver can let them out. He thus avoids this, right? – D M Dec 16 '19 at 05:53
  • @DM Dude. I am not talking about the bus driver. Quit trying to apply my words to that. That is an entirely different scenario. I am replying to the comment "This implies any normal city bus driver would also be guilty if they let anyone under 16 on without parental permission, doesn't it?" PERIOD. It does not apply to the city bus driver because it's public transportation and not a private bus along with other things such as the understanding that the driver ONLY transports passengers. This random person driving a school bus is more akin to a van picking up a kid and taking them to school! – user64742 Dec 16 '19 at 05:58
  • @DM Of course the children themselves would not be in any actual danger in this situation nor suspect any, but in the same sense a random person in a van could offer a ride, and then provide that same ride without ever evoking any danger in the child - because they really are in fact just trying to be helpful. They'd still be on the hook though. – user64742 Dec 16 '19 at 06:00
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Possession of a school bus for improper purpose

Since you've said "pick your jurisdiction", here. Florida 316.72 makes it a misdemeanor to merely possess such a school bus.

Awkwardly, the statute misses prohibiting the prank itself, but certainly does forbid everything necessary to lead up to the prank: Buying a school bus without obliterating marks and colors; continuing to own it in colors; and using for any other purpose in colors. Take it to Home Depot to buy some plywood, boom, violation.

316.72 Buses simulating school buses in color and insignia; conditions of use.
(1) It shall be unlawful for any person, except a governmental unit or agency operating as provided by law, to use on the public highways of the state any bus of an orange or yellow color known as “school bus chrome,” or any color purporting to resemble the color of a school bus, for any purpose other than to transport persons to and from educational or recreational facilities or institutions or to and from events or activities which are sponsored, financed, or supervised by educational, recreational, religious, or charitable organizations. When said vehicle has ceased to be so used, or is used for the transportation of passengers other than for said purpose, its use shall be unlawful unless and until said bus has been changed from said colors to some other color by repainting and unless and until all signs and insignia which mark or designate it as a school bus have been removed therefrom.

You can weasel that this doesn't strictly prohibit what you are doing. The problem is the chain of custody of the vehicle: it was required to be de-marked the moment it left school bus service.

You will have committed this crime by being in possession, not promptly removing, and maintaining the look of a school bus, with the intent of doing this stunt, even if the actual doing of the stunt does not violate this code.

Kidnapping, still

There are a couple of things that will nail you.

First, when you join the route partially, it means that the first boarding kids will see an empty bus when they don't expect to. They may also notice not all their friends are being picked up. First, you'll have to interact with them about that; which means you are lying already. And second, they're gonna be on their phones telling everyone about it.

Meanwhile, you're early. Children walking to the bus stop, with line-of-sight to same, will see you come and go. Presuming they have missed the bus, they'll run home so their parents can take them. And now the parents are calling the school.

Meanwhile, transit-bus dynamics are working against you, specifically the "bus bunching" effects. Anybody who rides busy transit lines has found themselves on a "follower" bus, picking up few people, making few stops, while getting closer and closer to the bus on the schedule ahead. That "leader" is picking up all the business, and taking more time doing it, while you pick up little, and quickly catch up.

Now you're the leader. Your follower is the legitimate school bus. You're doing most of its business, so it's catching up fast. In no time, it's in sight distance of you, seeing you doing it -- Boom! Call 9-1-1.

You're cursed either way - start later to reduce bus bunching, and you get suspicious kids.

The state will assert that your plan was to diverge before the school, and abduct the children. Your entire logic is that you'll have an airtight defense: that you did in fact drop them off at the school, drove away empty, and all kids are accounted for and unmussed.

You'll never get to the school. Between the proper school bus and the police, all of whom have radio, they will cut you off and box you in, with the mama-bear fervor of protecting their children.

Wrath and fury

If you followed the Mooninite incident of 2007, you know the authorities can be ridiculously unfair. What, in 20/20 hindsight, were obviously advertising street art, was classified by the authorities as a "hoax device" - literally, a fake bomb designed to terrorize. Further, the authorities blamed the ad agency for every single bit of the civil disturbance that was actually caused by the police overreacting - evacuations, road diversions, closed subway lines, thousands of police hours.

So even in the happiest possible case where you let your chargés off at the school without suspicion or incident, and are 5 miles gone before the cops stop you, and are somehow able to keep all this in the civil or misdemeanor realm... They're still gonna go full-metal-stupid on you. They'll charge you with kidnaping, saying that was your intent, but you took them to school because you wimped out. The kids will be none the wiser until the investigators and trauma counselers drag them into rooms and tell them what a terrifying ordeal they suffered. They'll have PTSD for years.

And of course, the families will come after you civilly for the fright you put them through, and the long-term PTSD treatments. Liabilities from this kind of act can't be cleared in bankruptcy, so you'll be paying for the rest of your life.

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    If I read your Florida law literally, the impersonator is illegal only if he drives it for a purpose other than taking kids to school! – WGroleau Dec 14 '19 at 02:36
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    @WGroleau As I already discuss, that statute manages to miss outlawing the prank itself, but it prohibits everything leading up to it: acquiring it and failing to timely remove school bus marks and colors. and all uses of the vehicle (including idle ownership) prior to the prank. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Dec 14 '19 at 02:46
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    “When it has ceased to be so used,” but in OP’s scenario, the Weirdo is still so using it! I understand the intent of the law, but I once got out of a legitimate ticket merely by pointing out the literal interpretation of the law, even though the intent was obvious. – WGroleau Dec 14 '19 at 02:50
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    316.72 says "use", not "possess", (and that's in the context of "use on the public highways of the state") so I don't think your claims that it's illegal to possess a yellow bus quite hold up. "Idle ownership" is not "use". Florida legislators know how to use the word "possess" when that's what the law means. – D M Dec 14 '19 at 03:02
  • @DM Except with vehicles, it's a distinction without a difference, and the Legislators know that too, because it has to move by road. Even being towed counts. OP already violated by moving it from the dealership home. The only defense OP might have had is "I'll paint it when I get home", but OP didn't, so no. Also, "ceased to be used" is not something you can turn on and off like a switch. Legislators also know how to say "are not using"; ceased means finality. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Dec 14 '19 at 03:08
  • Also, maintaining a vehicle's registration is an assertion of intent to use it on public roads. Legislatures do everything they can to put vehicles within their reach; not least to give municipalities power to clean up eyesores. It can be quite difficult to tow a car whose registration has lapsed. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Dec 14 '19 at 03:26
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    @Harper-ReinstateMonica If the law was interpreted as "you drove it from the dealership and that's not transporting children so you're in violation", that would be untenable for private bus companies. And you could get around it by transporting 1 person (yourself) to the library on the way home. Also see Florida law 775.021 - "The provisions of this code and offenses defined by other statutes shall be strictly construed; when the language is susceptible of differing constructions, it shall be construed most favorably to the accused." – D M Dec 14 '19 at 05:54
  • If the weirdo had tons of money could not the weirdo buy a school and get around this law? – emory Dec 14 '19 at 22:58
  • Who said "pick your jurisdiction"? I see the text "pick your favorite jurisdiction" in a comment made by user6726, but that seemed to be referencing a specific comment. I don't see that as part of the original question. – TOOGAM Dec 15 '19 at 14:57
  • @WGroleau The statute makes it a crime for "any person" except* "a governmental unit or agency operating as provided by law"* to drive a "fake" school bus. – Just a guy Dec 15 '19 at 18:30
  • @TOOGAM Such amendments are supposed to be edited into the question, but it's common for this to be overlooked. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Dec 15 '19 at 18:39
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Many crimes are to some extend implicitly defined by motive, whether or not the statutes explicitly specify all the cases in which a person's demonstrable motives or other circumstances may partially or totally absolve them of guilt. During Hurricane Katrina, for example, a man named Jabbar Gibson took a school bus from a parking lot in New Orleans, invited many people to board, and drove with those people to the Houston Astrodome. Even though the statutes about vehicle theft or proper uses of school buses would have no provisions authorizing his behavior, no jury aware of the circumstances would convict him. The bus would have been destroyed by flooding if he hadn't removed it, and the people he invited onto the bus were safety delivered to shelter in Texas.

If someone were found to be picking up children in a school bus, and were caught before delivering the children to school, it may be difficult or impossible for the driver to prove that his intentions were honorable, and a jury might be inclined to believe the worst absent evidence to the contrary. If, however, the person could show that he had a reasonable belief that he had been asked to fill in for a driver who couldn't make the rounds (e.g. he received a phony email requesting such relief), then even if his actions had not in fact been authorized, prosecution would be unlikely.

If the person had no justification for trying to deliver the children to school, and his actions caused alarm when the real bus driver showed up, but he could be shown to have no intention of doing anything else other than delivering the children, then he would most likely be prosecuted for disorderly conduct or other similar offense (a catch-all for unreasonable actions which result in public alarm necessitating police involvement), as well as perhaps civil penalties if e.g. he had been licensed as a bus driver. It's doubtful the driver would get off without some sort of penalty in the absence of some justification for his actions, but if he could be shown not to have had any ill intent toward the passengers he would be unlikely to be prosecuted for crimes which presume more sinister intent.

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This answer presumes that when the question says "someone who owned a school bus legally drove said school bus", you're referring to one of those long vehicles capable of having many people sit on them, which are often painted yellow, may even have the word "school bus" printed on it.

It seems that the question may need to be more specific, as different laws can exist in different places. (Examples follow.)

Harper's answer mentions Florida 316.72, which seems to have some strict requirements about school buses.

On the literal other side of (the "continental US" portion of) the nation, Just a guy's answer provides a hyperlink to a spot on a government-ish website from the State of Washington, which is Office of SuperIntendent, of Public Education: Student Transportation: Publications and Bullitens/Memos which describe a school bus.

However, I tack on my explanation, which also hails from Washington State. For about seven years, I spent 4-7 hours nearly every Saturday evening/night helping homeless people I could find. I remember coming across a long vehicle that looked to me like it was a "school bus". This vehicle looked somewhat old, maybe a bit beat up, and was parked on a largely abandoned road. I encountered the person who seemed to be living in the vehicle.

I thought this was a very attention-gathering scenario so when somebody came out of this vehicle (apparently living in it), I asked him about whether he was risking trouble with legal authorities by living in a school bus. He explained to me that what he was living in was not a school bus.

I pointed out to him that this was shaped like a bus, and this long vehicle was yellow (the traditional color for a school bus in this part of the world), and the words "SCHOOL BUS" were still quite clearly printed on the back side.

He explained to me that since nearly all of the seats were removed from the vehicle, it was no longer a school bus. This wasn't just him spouting off some drunken non-sense. He did endeavor to handle the situation legally, and the vehicle was appropriately licensed and insured. Specifically, the vehicle was legally insured as a "recreational vehicle" (an "RV").

Indeed, what I found is that the main source of legal information I know of for the state, the commonly-cited "Regulatory Code of Washington", include Washington Administrative Code 391-143-010 where the first part of that legal text says:

(1) "School bus" means every vehicle <STRONG>with a seating capacity of more than ten persons</STRONG> including the driver regularly used to transport students to and from school or in connection with school activities.

So, not only was the vehicle no longer "regularly used to transport students", but since the person had removed nearly all of the seats in the back side of the bus, it no longer had enough seats for 10 people. Quite literally, this no longer fit the legal definition of a "school bus". Absurdly, even despite the markings that identified it as a school bus, it was now an RV. Officially. (Just ask the insurance company.)

Do keep in mind that there may be legitimate reasons why someone may want to transport children other than to be part of the local official public school district's efforts to re-locate the children. Examples could include organizations like a Day Care, a Youth Activity Center (perhaps a "YMCA"), or a church. My father picked up (college-aged) people using a church bus, and while he did have a Commercial Driver's License enabling him to drive large vehicles (which was probably not a necessity), no specific licensing was required for operating a "bus".

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