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After World War II, large numbers of ethnic-Germans who had lived in Eastern Europe were expelled - by the local (post-Nazi-occupation) government, by the USSR and even with some Western power involvement; some just fled due to local violence / threat of retribution. By 1950, it seems there were over 12 Million of them overall.

In those states from which the largest number of residents/citizens were expelled - were the expellees ever re-enfranchised? Allowed to return as residents, to regain their citizens, to regain property confiscated from them, or reparations for it? And what about the descendants of expellees who died while their parents had not regained any status?

Notes:

  • To be more specific about states: Czechoslovakia, Poland, USSR-constituent republics, Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia and its constituents... I think that covers most expellees.
  • In Eastern Europe there were expropriations/nationalizations unrelated to one's being ethnic Germans. Naturally I'm not asking about the ability to obtain property confiscated in that manner beyond what regular citizens/residents can obtain.
  • I realize that, with the formation of the EU, one can relatively easily reside in another EU member; but not all of Eastern Europe is in the EU, and some of it only asceded relatively recently, so the status of expellees up to the ascession is relevant to the answer here.
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  • (At least) in the case of Hungary the expelled Germans lost their Hungarian citizenship. I presume their descendants cannot get Hungarian citizenship based on their parents or grandparents citizenship because they lost that citizenship. – user2414208 Jun 06 '21 at 21:41
  • Please add more focus on 1. not this re-enfranchisement? 2. which countries acted how & when (nazis also expropriated ethnic Germans, CSSR vs (V)R Poland is quite a different chain of events) 3. get citizenship 4. "right to return" 5. right to return & buy land 6. right to compensation (this time from nowadays countries of former origin) 7. right to restitution. – LаngLаngС Jun 07 '21 at 08:26
  • @user2414208 When you read https://berlin.mfa.gov.hu/deu/page/a-magyar-allampolgarsag-megszerzese-egyszerusitett-honositassal it sounds quite different now? – LаngLаngС Jun 07 '21 at 08:27
  • Every country has its own laws, and those of nationality and citizenship are especially particular. Which country do you mean? – RedSonja Jun 07 '21 at 11:32
  • @RedSonja: The countries with the most expelled ethnic Germans. So, I guess, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, maybe Hungary? – einpoklum Jun 07 '21 at 12:35
  • @LаngLаngС: 1. Oh, yes, that's definitely part of it! I didn't know about that at all. 2. I did say after world war II, so not the Nazis. 3... 7 - I'm asking which of these has happened, if at all. – einpoklum Jun 07 '21 at 12:37
  • If you agree on those points, the please [edit] them in to improve the focus and precision? – LаngLаngС Jun 07 '21 at 12:59
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    @LаngLаngС: Done, but the Lastenausgleich should be in an answer, not the question. – einpoklum Jun 07 '21 at 13:28
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    Romania was quite different from other Eastern European countries. And you are missing Yugoslavia. – Jan Jun 07 '21 at 13:58
  • Pictures are attractive? Old ones esp https://i.redd.it/bpue2iwli3p21.png https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-far-right-afd-aims-at-a-forgotten-demographic/a-50993725 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lange_diercke_sachsen_deutschtum_mitteleuropa.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German1910.png – LаngLаngС Jun 07 '21 at 14:03
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    @LangLangC if that comment was directed at me, my point was that there were still quite significant numbers of ethnic Germans in Romania in the 1960s and later. I think that was reasonably unique in Eastern Europe. (Except maybe in some parts of Upper Silesia) – Jan Jun 07 '21 at 16:24

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I think your question is misleading because disenfranchisement is the wrong category. With most nations having become EU members, residence is settled, and what remains to ask is the question of historical expropriations. (Which affected everybody under Communism.)

  • When the German Reich took territory in Central Europe after 1938, they handed German citizenship or privileges to the Volksdeutsche population. There might have been some who refused, but by and large they accepted it.
  • At the end of the war, Germans were expelled from some countries and fled from others. A few groups did stay.
  • Also at the end of the war, countries in Central Europe became communist and nationalized property, especially but not exclusively from Germans.

So if the Germans in question had gotten a right to get their citizenship back -- and accepting a new citizenship is generally seen as a valid reason to strip the old one -- their property would still have been subject to Communist laws for several decades.

The right question would be if the heirs of former residents living outside the countries were disadvantaged during the winding-up of communist rule, and the answer to that is "yes."

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    About property - please interpret my question to mean "to the same kind of rights as citizens who had not been expelled after the war". So if the Stalinist governments expropriated from everybody and this hasn't been re-privatized for anybody, obviously the ethnic Germans can't expect special treatment. – einpoklum Jun 07 '21 at 10:30
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    e.g. my German neighbour (obviously very old) left Lithuania on literally the last boat to get out, as a toddler, so he just about remembers it. After the fall of the Evil Empire he went back and found their (his) land lying empty with the ruins of the farm in it. He asked, not expecting a good answer, if he could have it back. "Yes, of course, please do. You only need to apply for a Lithuanian passport (because you were born here), and move your place of residence back here." – RedSonja Jun 07 '21 at 11:36
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    Your first bullet point seems to be only relevant to a part of expellees (those from Czechoslovakia, pre-WWII Poland, and Yugoslavia). Germans living in Silesia, East Prussia, Eastern Pomerania and Danzig at that time never were able to give up their Polish or Soviet citizenship because they never were Polish or Soviet citizens in the first place. – Jan Jun 07 '21 at 13:40
  • @Jan, it is even more complicated than that -- plenty of people moved around between 39 and 45. – o.m. Jun 07 '21 at 14:33
  • Pretty sure for Poland to be admitted to the "western world" Jews with property deeds prior to communism had to have had their properties returned. – mega_creamery Jun 07 '21 at 19:00
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    @mega_creamery Which Jews specifically? Confiscated by whom exactly, by the Nazis or by the Polish? In which wave exactly? Confiscated when exactly and by which law orinternational treaty exactly? These details are extremely important. – Vladimir F Героям слава Jun 08 '21 at 10:38
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    @Vladimir this is an anecdotal example from my family. After WWII people were allowed to occupy abandoned buildings that were structurally safe. That's what my greatgrandparents did and they lived there rent free until early 2000 when they were informed of having an American landlord whose ancestor used to own the whole building prior to WWII. They guessed he was Jewish from surname. I imagine many with sound paperwork could attempt to retrieve lost property and I think it used to be a big business for a while finding ancestors of prewar landowners to buy their potential claim for peanuts. – mega_creamery Jun 08 '21 at 12:27
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    @mega_creamery You did not really specify any of the important points I said are needed. There are way too many possibilities. There was a huge way of restitution from the 1948. Of course, the confiscations made by the Nazis were theoretically nullified. Jews were exempt from the expulsion if they were prosecuted by the Nazis if they accepted the Czech nationality. So really, at which point exactly and by which process exacty did those Czech Jews you are concerned about lost their property? The devil is in the detail. – Vladimir F Героям слава Jun 08 '21 at 12:48
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    @mega_creamery Many Jews perished. Some of their relatives might not have opportunity to claim their inheritance, but the 1945-1948 Central Europe was a huge mess with many displaced people returning. Many Jews found their places occupied by other people. However, their property was not atually confiscated by some particular Czechoslovak law and there would have to be lawsuits. But then the communists came and a new wave of displaced people and the courts became controlled by the communists and simply put, the history is extremely complex and exact details have to be known. – Vladimir F Героям слава Jun 08 '21 at 12:52
  • @Vladimir This was in Poland not Czechia, it's possible original owners didn't even have property seized, they just emigrated (wisely) and forgot about it for several decades. Bottom line is pre war papers made it possible to reclaim property in certain circumstances, doesn't matter whether it was seized by communists or by nazis and then communists. I imagine if a German could prove ownership in prewar Poland they could probably reclaim it too. – mega_creamery Jun 08 '21 at 12:57
  • @mega_creamery Sorry for mentioning Czechoslovakia instead of Polanf. It is similar although different, because of the drastic changes of the borders of Poland. The actual laws also differ. The details are still the key. You imagine it very wrong. Law must be followed. Certain confiscations were done according local laws based on international accords (Jalta, Potsdam,...) and are not subject to any reclaim. If someone just forgot they had some property before emmigration, that is a completely different matter. It has nothing to do with this, really. – Vladimir F Героям слава Jun 08 '21 at 14:11
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    @mega_creamery As far as I know both in Czeck and in Slovakia the Benes decrees are partially is still the law, and Milos Zeman, Vaclav Klaus, and others were vocal about rejecting any reparation. – Greg Jun 12 '21 at 06:04
  • @Greg, some of the Soviet expropriations are still in force in Germany, for that matter. – o.m. Jun 12 '21 at 07:06
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Hungary was actually rather reluctant to expel its German population, starting only at the behest of the occupying Soviet forces and continuing only under pressure by the Allied Control Council. After expelling some 180,000 ethnic Germans (mostly to West Germany) the Hungarian government halted the process in 1948. In 1950 they went so far as to rescind the expulsion orders, opening the door for the expellees to return.*

According to this post by our own LаngLаngС, historian Agnes Tóth estimates that some 10,000 Germans eventually returned to Hungary. The topic of repatriation is also the subject of a 2017 monograph by Sebastian Sparwasser: Identität im Spannungsfeld von Zwangsmigration und Heimkehr: Ungarndeutsche Vertriebene und die Remigration ("Identity in the field of tension between forced migration and homecoming: Displaced Hungarian Germans and the remigration").


*Balázs Apor. The Expulsion of the German Speaking Population from Hungary. In: S. Prauser and A. Rees (eds.), The Expulsion of the 'German' Communities from Eastern Europe at the End of the Second World War. EUI Working Paper HEC No. 2004/1, European University Institute, Florence, Department of History and Civilization, 2004.

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  • Was there mass strife following the war which prompted the USSR or the allies to be so bent on throwing Germans out of Hungary? I mean, what's it to them? 2. Vertriebene = Displaced?
  • – einpoklum Jun 08 '21 at 10:00
  • @einpoklum 1. Prerequisites of displacement (=not Q in question): Hungary was partly 'coerced'/'entitled' to expell them all (split opinions within Hungary ('enemies of Magyars: Jews and Swabians'/'we need to be better than this'), US/UK at first against it, SU in favour) by https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Potsdam_Agreement XII. (from Poland and Czechia already agreed at Jalta; Hungary applied for doing so later) They pushed out ~50%. Allied agreement in Potsdam was based on nationalist thinking and ethnic cleansing (UK/US worried about logistics). 2. yes: forced displacement – LаngLаngС Jun 08 '21 at 11:44
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    @LаngLаngС: That's really sad to hear. I mean, in a sense, the expulsion was based on aspects of the Nazis' ideology being shared by the conquerors. – einpoklum Jun 08 '21 at 13:05
  • I have found this link that may be useful: https://archivnet.hu/a-szovjetunioba-hurcolt-magyarorszagi-nemetek-karpotlasa-1989-1992 According to this, in 1991 the Germans who were expelled from Hungary and were living outside of Hungary could apply for partial reparation together with the others, which they could receive in "compensation bonds". The value is a little fraction of what was taken (partly because of the large number of victims that could not be paid by an essentially bankrupt state , and partly because political will for full compensation may have never existed) – Greg Jun 10 '21 at 17:03
  • @einpoklum Note that Germans were not the only minority that was expelled. At the same time, e.g large number of Hungarian was expelled from neighboring countries, and Germans (often just random people having German-sounding names) were taken by the Soviets,too, to labor camps – Greg Jun 10 '21 at 17:15
  • @Greg: Labor camps and expulsion are a different kind of oppression... but - about the expelled Hungarians: Do you mean from Romania? Or elsewhere as well? – einpoklum Jun 10 '21 at 18:29
  • @einpoklum: There are a lot of similarities between declaring collective responsibility of an ethnic group and their deportation to another country, and their deportation to labor camps or labor camps in another country. The argument behind them is the same, and they had a similar effect on the population, too. Eg look at the deportation of the Romanian Germans to the Soviet union. About Hungarians, afaik the biggest organized expel was from Czechoslovakia (Benes decrees). From eg Yugoslavia, it was more common that people were running from the genocides organized by the communists/partizans. – Greg Jun 11 '21 at 07:41
  • @Greg: The more I learn about just-after-WW2 Europe the crazier it sounds. – einpoklum Jun 11 '21 at 11:03