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An essay by Robert Kagan in the Washington Post, March 14, 2019, argues for rethinking the big theme of 20th-century history as a struggle between liberalism and authoritarianism, and for an interpretation of authoritarianism as explicitly ideological. In particular, he argues that

World War I, fought mainly in the trenches along the Western Front from 1914 to 1918, was very much a war between authoritarianism and liberalism.

This seems like a very novel interpretation to me, but maybe my high school education in 1980 was biased or is now out of date. Is this picture well-supported by the historical record? Is Kagan stretching a point too far?

My picture of World War I had been that it was not an ideological conflict but rather an unintended consequence of the existence of secret treaties that allowed a trivial assassination to become amplified into a world-wide conflict. I would have also thought of it as being connected to colonialism. I'm an American, and when I think of Woodrow Wilson, I don't think of classical liberalism — I think of the Palmer Raids, hardcore racism and segregation, and the East St. Louis massacres. I suppose World War I was a war to make the world safe for capital in the US and Britain, which does align with the Hayek-style notion of classical liberalism, but Kagan seems to want to disassociate liberalism-authoritarianism from right-left economic policy.

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    Imperial Russia wasn't particularly liberal, so I don't see how you can claim it started out as such a thing. – Gort the Robot Mar 16 '19 at 20:45
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    @StevenBurnap: I don't understand your comment. I'm not claiming anything. I'm asking for an evaluation of Kagan's claims. And why "started out as?" –  Mar 16 '19 at 20:48
  • Age of Anger by Pankaj Mishra examines some of the 19th century ideological motivators I think Kagan is getting at, and their relevance nationalist movements today, albeit in somewhat different terms. I'll look forward to seeing a complete answer in terms of WWI specifically. – Random Mar 16 '19 at 21:21
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    It's as good an oversimplification as most of them...which is to say "not really very good" As long as you ignore the parts that don't fit, it works pretty well as an organizing principle. – Mark Olson Mar 16 '19 at 22:45
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    Kagan seems to be trying to force the past into a shape that supports his ideas about the present. He isn't convincing me with this argument. – John Dallman Mar 16 '19 at 22:56
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    I apologize...I meant "you" in the generic sense, not you in particular. (I.e "I don't see how one can claim it started out as such a thing") – Gort the Robot Mar 16 '19 at 23:16
  • No, that was WW II – John Dee Mar 16 '19 at 23:18
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    @StevenBurnap Regarding your point that "Imperial Russia wasn't particularly liberal," I get the impression that Robert Kagan's attitude would be: "Who cares about that stupid Eastern Front? It was the Western Front that was full of Great Historical Significance, as I choose to perceive it, so let's focus on that! Besides, Russia's own February Revolution occurred during WWI, so I can patch up my theory to claim that this was more 'proof' of a form of liberalism fighting against a corrupt and obsolete authoritarian regime as part of the larger conflict." – Lorendiac Mar 17 '19 at 05:19
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    @JohnDallman : Growing up in the socialist era in Eastern Europe, I remember how Soviet propaganda painted history. Every folk hero in the Middle ages, every bandit lord or peasant revolt were all a communist struggle against capitalism. Even succession wars were somehow turned into a battle between evil monsters and a perfect idealistic group of heroes who fought to end the oppression of the masses (even if in reality they were a faction of barons struggling to get the throne) and somehow steer the world towards communism. It seems such pieces of propaganda now start to pop up in the West too – vsz Mar 17 '19 at 12:44
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    Protecting your colonies, your king/queen and empire is indeed what a real liberal do. – Greg Mar 17 '19 at 16:16
  • @Lorendiacn If you have followed the events, you might realized that Soviet Russia was a pretty authoritarian regime, too. – Greg Mar 17 '19 at 16:19
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    @Greg I'm no expert on Russian history, but I do know that the "February Revolution" of 1917 was led by people claiming they wanted representative democracy and free speech and so forth. They also got the last of the Tsars to abdicate, so it must have looked pretty "liberal" at the time, in comparison to the old Imperial government. I don't know how that actually would have turned out in the long run if Lenin hadn't subsequently seized power in the "October Revolution," which led to a very authoritarian USSR for the next few generations. – Lorendiac Mar 17 '19 at 17:26
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    First, a liberal - in the American sense of the word - is just a particular variety of authoritarian. Second, the way troops were treated in the trenches seems pretty darned authoritarian to me. – jamesqf Mar 18 '19 at 05:14
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    WW I was a war of frustrated politicians getting fed up with each other based on a lot of miscommunication and arrogance and simply flared after they found a lousy excuse (murder of Franz Ferdinand by a Serbian nationalist). It has nothing to do with liberalism and authoritarians. It was a bunch of trigger-happy lunatics with alliances. – Mast Mar 18 '19 at 12:58
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    Well, most in the US would have preferred Tsarist Russia to Soviet Russia, so in the "the-enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-friend-and-since-I-am-a-liberal-all-my-friends-are-of-course-also-liberals" sense, it may be at least remotely understandable how one can see Tsarist Russia as liberal... – rob74 Mar 18 '19 at 13:53
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    So the WWI thesis is clearly simplistic and politically motivated, but just because everyone hates it I'm going to throw out a few points (sort of) in its favor (note 20th cen. is not my ballpark): 1. I think it's valid that history can be nuanced to death, and the "oops, Austria" view fits awkwardly with some of the morally charged rhetoric of the time. 2. WWI as pure accident and brinkmanship can also, potentially, veer into presentism. We may be pushed to describe it as futile, cynical, and confused by our knowledge of the lost generation, trench warfare, and the looming shadow of WWII. – Random Mar 18 '19 at 17:23
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  • Finally, whenever we try and say what a bit of history was "really" about we always risk talking past each other. Does "really" refer to the rhetoric, intentions, actions, successes and failures, or grand historical consequence of the actors? I think it's worth talking about meaning in history, but worth much less if we don't use a whole lotta charity and define the problems we're trying to solve carefully at the outset.
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  • Which side does he consider authoritarian and which liberal? And why? – Michael Kay Mar 19 '19 at 08:54