What is Youngster?

Question

I have the achievement "Youngster" in progress with a peculiar description:

I've definitely caught more than 1 Rattata. Just look at my candies for proof:

Am I missing something here or is this achievement broken?

I was wondering the same thing actually - I intentionally caught several Rattata and my progress didn't increase on this badge. — Tim Malone, Jul 20 '16 at 07:50
I remember the tooltip to say Rattata of a particular weight — dly, Jul 20 '16 at 07:50
@Insane The tool tip said so I believe. Not in a position to double check it right now ;) — Dimitri mx, Jul 20 '16 at 07:51
It's currently bugged. No need to check since Niantic changed the description. It used to say something about a certain weight, but apparently it doesn't anymore. It should register fine, if you catch a qualified Rattata, though. (probably XS size) — dly, Jul 20 '16 at 07:56
Youngster was a name for a common type of trainer you would face in Pokémon Red / Blue / Yellow — Spork, Jul 20 '16 at 09:33
@Spork yes exactly. "Yougster wants to challenge you for a battle :) — ABcDexter, Jul 20 '16 at 10:14
@Spork And in Gold / Silver / Crystal, Youngster Joey's Rattata was in the top percentage of Rattatas. [By which he means IVs of 9 Atk/8 Def/8 Spd/8 Spe (and implicitly 8 HP) in gen II (very slightly above average, IVs were 0-15 in gen I/II), and 0/0/0/0/0/0 in gen IV (standard IVs for most normal trainers' pokemon). [It was initially believed that its IVs were 30/31/29/31/26/30 in gen IV, which would mean that it really was in the top percentage, but this was sadly disproven by hackers.] — Justin Time - Reinstate Monica, Jul 20 '16 at 21:21

score 36 · Accepted Answer · edited Oct 11 '21 at 02:35

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The Youngster achievement is actually awarded for catching some number of Rattata below a certain weight.

The achievement previously stated "Caught {0} Rattata weighing at most {1}". In many programming languages, {0} and {1} are just ways to substitute numbers into some text. It seems that Niantic simply messed up the description, even though it tracks correctly.

A screenshot may be found at Timelord64's answer to the question I've got an “XS” Pokémon. Is it special?, reproduced here:

The badge is called BADGE_SMALL_RATTATA in the data dump. The data dump lists its targets as \0032\254\002, which translates to requirements of 3, 50, and 300. There's no indication for weight, but I suspect it just requires XS Rattata.

Regarding XS Rattata specifically, I hypothesise that a Rattata is XS if it is 2 standard deviations below the mean. The mean for Rattata is 3.5 kg, and the standard deviation is 0.4375 kg, so you should be getting it for Rattata below 2.625 kg. (The game only shows two digits for weight, so this falls between 2.62 and 2.63 kg. I hypothesise this because I have a 2.4 kg XS Rattata, and a 2.75 kg regular Rattata.)

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answered Jul 20 '16 at 07:50

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This answer would be complete with some details as to what that weight is, maybe a screenshot of the old text? This could be heresy. – Insane Jul 20 '16 at 07:52
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The description just says "Caught 11 Rattata" for me - no mention of weight. Are you saying it used to be with the weight note, but that was removed in an update? – Tim Malone Jul 20 '16 at 07:52
@TimMalone You're correct -- it used to have the {0} and {1}, but it seems to have been removed in a server-side update. – Schism Jul 20 '16 at 07:52
Possibly the data dump has info. – Insane Jul 20 '16 at 07:53
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Incidentally, the name of the achievement is probably a reference to Youngster Joey: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youngster-joey – Cronax Jul 20 '16 at 09:24
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It appears in the most recent app update - marked "minor text fixes" - this badge's description is now "Caught x tiny Ratatta" – Tim Malone Jul 21 '16 at 23:07
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I have just confirm that both Weight and Height have to be XS to get a younger Rattata as for Magikarp XL – Aug 12 '16 at 03:00

score 3 · Answer 2 · answered Jul 20 '16 at 08:06

Items {
  TemplateId: "BADGE_SMALL_RATTATA"
  Badge {
    BadgeType: BADGE_SMALL_RATTATA
    BadgeRanks: 4
    Targets: "\0032\254\002"
  }
}

Although it doesn't say so in the description anymore the badge is supposed to be awarded for catching lightweight Rattata. The name BADGE_SMALL_RATTATA is pretty obvious. It's the opposite of the Magikarp badge, where you need big catches to get it.

Some communities confirm the text to be bugged, some say it's the badge itself, that's bugged. My recent Rattata catches showed a working badge with incorrect tool tip text.

lois6b · Answer 3 · 2016-07-25T06:27:41.477

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it say: Caught [0] Rattata weighing at most 1 so the rattata you catch must be light weight

edited Jul 25 '16 at 06:27

answered Jul 20 '16 at 07:51

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Mine and seemingly everyone in the comments don't see that.. – Insane Jul 20 '16 at 07:52
maybe is something to do with the update. i didnt update yet cause when i did i had problems so i downgrade. the thing is , must be extra small or light weight, i have the achievment done – lois6b Jul 20 '16 at 07:54
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Get a screenshot of it then before you update and add that to your answer to support it – Insane Jul 20 '16 at 07:59

score -1 · Answer 4 · answered Aug 01 '16 at 22:18

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Tiny Rattata is any Rattata with a CP of 10 or less. As you increase your level by XP, tinny rattatas become harder to find

answered Aug 01 '16 at 22:18

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It's actually designated by the XS you see on size/weight. See the accepted answer. CP doesn't change whether or not it's tiny or large. – Insane Aug 01 '16 at 22:31
There are no <10 CPs. – Bogdan Verbenets Feb 05 '17 at 15:53

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