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I was stuck into 85kg benchpress for a while (like 10 reps for 3 sets). Few monthes ago, after watching a youtube video from an Italian body builder I've used the strategy of "micro loading" in order to lift more weight.

Essentially what I did for a while was starting, say with a first set of 65kg then in the next sets I would add a very small load (like 5kg or 2.5kg) until I can only do no more than one rep.

Adopting this strategy for few months I am now able to lift 100kg as 1RM however I do struggle to do more than one however. I did manage few times to lift such weight for 3 reps but not consistently.

When I got to this target I've retried to micro load again but I still cannot pass the threshold of 1RM.

Any suggestions or something I can look up so I can at least manage for few reps consistently?

To clarify now my typical routine (when it comes to bench press) is something like.

  1. First set of 85 kg for 8-10 reps
  2. Increasing of 5kg and perform 6-8 reps for 2 sets.
  3. Increasing of 2.5kg and perform 4-6 reps for 2 sets.
  4. Increasing again 2.5kg but this is where I struggle.

I also tried to do less sets but still I cannot pass over that threshold of 1RM.

I think this strategy this dis something to increase my strength but I think I need something a bit different or complementary.

Any suggestions or something I can look up? Essentially I think the strength is fine but the volume is too low.

user8469759
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  • How long have you been training for, and how much have you progressed from when you first started? (I.e. How much were you benching when you first started working out?) – David Scarlett Aug 29 '23 at 06:27
  • Been training for years (like 10 almost), but I am an amateur not professional. When I first started lifting I think it was around 40kg (like ages ago). It obviously progressed towards the weight I mentioned at the beginning of my question. – user8469759 Aug 29 '23 at 06:33
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    What I would suggest is that after a proper warmup, you start with 100kg instead of working your way up to it. And you try benching sets of 3-5 reps instead of 8-10. This is a more strength focuessed rep range. – MJB Aug 29 '23 at 07:54
  • @MJB you mean starting with 100kg and then going down? or just 100kg with that low reps number? – user8469759 Aug 29 '23 at 09:52
  • What do you want to be able to do? 1 rep at 110kg, or 5 reps at 100kg? – Nike Dattani Aug 30 '23 at 13:15
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    @NikeDattani between the two I'd say 5 reps at 100kg – user8469759 Aug 31 '23 at 01:05
  • How often do you bench? – Dave Liepmann Aug 31 '23 at 06:43
  • @DaveLiepmann Twice a week. (Monday and Thursday normally). – user8469759 Aug 31 '23 at 06:46
  • What is your body weight by the way? – Nike Dattani Aug 31 '23 at 12:47
  • @user8469759 Your comment "I don't wanna lift heavier. I want to have more volume given the current weight I can maximally lift at the moment" confuses me. What is your goal here? Because you seem to be saying you want to do more reps at the gym instead of getting better. – Dave Liepmann Aug 31 '23 at 13:52
  • @NikeDattani 76.5kg – user8469759 Aug 31 '23 at 14:34
  • @Daveliepmann I don't understand your comment. I want to improve one aspect of my bench press (the volume) how is this in contradiction with "getting better"? – user8469759 Aug 31 '23 at 14:37
  • Is your goal greater muscle endurance, then? – Dave Liepmann Aug 31 '23 at 15:58
  • @DaveLiepmann I think so, yes. – user8469759 Sep 01 '23 at 02:25
  • Is it really? Or is your goal bodybuilding, and muscle endurance seems like a method to achieve muscle size? I don't mean to be rude but my spidey-sense is telling me we might have an XY problem here – Dave Liepmann Sep 01 '23 at 08:08
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    I think my goal is challenging myself... I am not an expert in body building or strength training if that's what you are trying to get it. As I said I want to able to do more reps consistently with my current maximal weight I don't know what are details I can give. Also don't be indirect... is just not helpful. I don't know about your spidy sense and XY problem. Muscle size isn't a problem, I like the way I look. – user8469759 Sep 01 '23 at 14:18
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    @user8469759 you can learn more about an XY problem here and spidey sense here. As for the XY problem, Dave perhaps thought that your goal (Y) was to get bigger muscles and that instead of asking "how do I get bigger muscles" you instead asked (X) which is "how do I improve my strength endurance". It was his "spidey sense" that suggested to him that you were asking this XY problem. Thanks for letting us know that muscle growth is not your goal though! – Nike Dattani Sep 01 '23 at 15:03

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If you've been training for 10 years I'm going to assume your diet is adequate for muscle growth and your form is good throughout you exercises. The only thing I can suggest is a slightly altered training method that really helped me break a plateau in my bench.

You just stated that increasing the weight isn't your goal but whether you want to increase the weight or volume, you need to increase your strength, so the method to get there is essentially the same.

This method I used that was very effective goes as follows: if you know your 1RM, take roughly 85% of that. With that weight you want to do sets of 2-3 reps with slow eccentrics and then driving up with as much power of possible, focusing on a fast rep. You want to do this for roughly 6-7 sets, but more importantly, you want to stop when the speed of your reps drops by 20% or when you notice the reduced speed. This will focus on your fast twitch fibres which are essential for heavy lifts and continuing when your reps start to slow while just be piling on junk volume.

This method was very effective for me and got me from a 100kg 1RM to to repping 100kg for 6 in a matter of weeks.

Ethan
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  • You think this is a method somewhat valid for any muscle group? – user8469759 Aug 29 '23 at 20:09
  • Honestly I couldn't say for certain, I don't know science behind it, all I can say for certain is that it was very effective in breaking my plateau on my bench. – Ethan Aug 30 '23 at 13:49
  • I can see this doing something. I did try this morning a bit, I think I don't have enough "explosive strength". After the slow eccentric I struggle a bit at the beginning to be fast to lift the barbell up. – user8469759 Aug 31 '23 at 06:53
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Using an online One Rep Max Calculator I find that 9 reps of 85 kg equals a 1 RM of 109 kg. In practice this means that on the first set you should theoretically be able to lift 109 kg once. Also I find that 7 reps of 90 kg equals a 1 RM of 108 kg and 5 reps of 92.5 kg equals a 1 RM of 104 kg. So it seems that your performance decreases for each set due to fatigue.

It sounds like you are always aiming for 10 reps in the first set. I guess this means that you could not have done 11 reps if you wanted to? In other words you are going to failure. If the max number of reps you can do in the first set is 10 I think you should do (way) less since the last reps cause extra much fatigue.

According to the popular 5/3/1 program for instance you would do:

  • Set 1: 5 x 82.5 kg
  • Set 2: 3 x 92.5 kg
  • Set 3: 100 kg for as many reps as possible

The combination of training further from failure and doing fewer sets before the heaviest set should cause less fatigue which in turn should increase the likelihood of you increasing number of reps on the heaviest set.

After the heaviest set you should then according to 5/3/1 do more sets with a lower weight to accumulate total weight lifted. You could for instance aim for 30 reps of 70 kg spread across as many sets as you want.

I think you could take two clues from 5/3/1:

  • do not go to failure in the sets leading up to your heaviest set
  • do fewer sets before your heaviest set and instead do more sets after your heaviest set

Anyways I think it is worth trying and it should only take 1-2 workouts to see if it is working.

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  • "You could for instance aim for 40 reps of 70 kg spread across as many sets as you want." I don't get it. Can you elaborate? – user8469759 Sep 01 '23 at 02:28
  • On each set you do almost as many as you can (1-4 reps short of failure). You do as many sets as you have to complete the rep target. If one day 10 reps on the first set feals easy you do more reps. For instance you may do 14 reps on the first set and 13 on the two next sets: 14+13+13 = 40. On the other hand if one day 10 reps feels a bit hard you may instead do: 10 + 10 + 8 + 7 + 5 = 40. – Andy Sep 01 '23 at 05:39
  • BTW I think a rep target of 40 may be a bit high. Perhaps 30 would be better. You went from 3 sets to 6 sets, which is a whopping 2x the volume, but does not seem to have gotten stronger. You may be doing too much. I think usually people do 3 sets and when they no longer progress they switch to 4 sets. Then they progress for some months. When that no longer work they switch to 5 sets etc. – Andy Sep 01 '23 at 05:48
  • Is there an explanation somewhere why this method is beneficial? – user8469759 Sep 01 '23 at 08:35
  • Sorry I could not find one. I think this may be a minor detail. I think doing say 3 sets of 10 reps may be as good. I think the important part is doing low rep (5,3,1) sets first to drive up strength and then doing high rep sets after to build muscle size. – Andy Sep 01 '23 at 13:25
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If you've been training for 10 years and have progressed from benching 40kg to 100kg, then there's a real chance that you've just reached the limits of your genetically potential.

There are some things you can try to break through this plateau, like benching more often (especially if you happen to be currently only training bench once or twice per week), or introducing more variety, such as isolation chest and triceps exercises. You may also be able to lift heavier by seeing a powerlifting coach in order to improve your technique. Or deliberately gaining weight could allow you to progress further. But if none of these things work, then it's likely just that you've gotten as strong in this lift as you're ever likely to be.

David Scarlett
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    @David Scarlett Just FYI I can consistently do 100kg x 3 reps for 3 sets. My 1RM now moved to 110kg. Although your answer was somewhat depressing I've found it motivating. – user8469759 Mar 10 '24 at 20:53