I bought a small inverter generator, filled it with SAE10-30 oil that shipped with it, taking care to check with the dipstick several times so as not to overfill it (though it did take the full bottle), and then ran it for 5 hours, varying the load, per the manual's instructions. The jar in the photo shows the oil that came out afterwards. Is oil normally that dirty after the initial break-in of these inverter generators?
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4This will probably be better on https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/ It does seem dirty, but I usually don't drain after five hours. There is oil testing sites where they will test the oil for metal. – crip659 Jan 28 '24 at 15:56
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Does your motor have an oil filter? If yes, consider changing it too. – Criggie Jan 29 '24 at 20:10
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No, it shouldn't do that. I think there are problems with that engine - probably pitting in the cylinder wall or other ring sealing troubles. But put some decent, clear oil in it and try again anyway. Also swill the oil with a bright light on it and see if there's much metal. If it looks like a pot of Storm Grey Metallic basecoat, not good. – Phil Sweet Jan 29 '24 at 21:12
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No oil filter on the model I bought. – mr blint Jan 29 '24 at 21:13
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@PhilSweet Not sure what Storm Grey Metallic basecoat looks like, but when I swirl it, it's not like it's full of glitter, though there may be a few tiny flecks floating around in it here and there. Not sure if they're tiny bubble. They are tiny, about the size of some fine-ground pepper, but very few and far between. – mr blint Jan 29 '24 at 21:54
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There's hope then. It's possible all of that contamination happened in the first few minutes and then things seated properly, but it sure looks like a lot for a little engine. My 20-year-old Honda 2000i has no discoloration after 100 hours or one year. It looks the same as when I poured it in. Yamaha pretty much the same, in my experience. – Phil Sweet Jan 29 '24 at 22:30
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Honda and Yamaha have very good reputations for reliability. The advantage (for me) of the one I bought is that it's dual fuel, propane or gasoline; I haven't been able to find a gas can that doesn't spill gas all over the place out its nozzle, even the expensive ones, so I've given up on using gasoline. – mr blint Jan 29 '24 at 22:46
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Yes.
Many engines are lubricated with a "grease" or heavy oil which is designed to stick to the machined surfaces until they are properly run for the first time.
You followed the running-in process and this is designed to "flush" that original oil or grease and allow the parts to "bed-in" as well. Most times as bearings, rings etc wear-in there is metal residue that is caught by the filter as part of the running-in process.
So that oil you show looks about right. If you are really concerned then send a sample for testing and send further samples after every 10 or 50 hours of running. Chart the progress of the impurities.
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Running a second test might show that the colour change is not repeated or as pronounced. Interesting idea, it would be a great way to get people to accept the change of the first oil by making it look dirty. – KalleMP Jan 29 '24 at 13:07
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3To me, this suggests that you ought to do a really good job of draining this initial fill, before refilling – Chris H Jan 29 '24 at 13:25
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3Most small 4-cycle engines will tell you to change the oil on initial use, usually after some ridiculously short period (often 10 hours or less) – Machavity Jan 29 '24 at 14:23
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3@SolarMike Which is my point. This isn't some one-off requirement. Your answer is good at filling in why – Machavity Jan 29 '24 at 14:27
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I don't have enough knowledge to be concerned, just enough to worry if I should be concerned. – mr blint Jan 29 '24 at 21:57
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I had a new Honda 4-cycle lawn mower that had gray oil come out during the first three oil changes. After that it started becoming the regular deep dark brown you'd expect. What you're seeing is called "assembly lube" by many manufacturers, and the grayness comes from the molybdenum (or similar) compounds they use. – smitelli Jan 30 '24 at 17:30
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@smitelli I built many engines and used a product called graphogen - graphite based and was REALLY sticky... – Solar Mike Jan 30 '24 at 17:38
