Bob had a straight to the 8 and Alice had a straight the 8, Bob had a 4 & Queen, Alice had a 8 & Jack. Who wins?
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What game are you asking about? – doppelgreener Nov 17 '14 at 09:12
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1possible duplicate of Poker texas holdem combinations: tie or not tie? – bwarner Nov 17 '14 at 14:20
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Assuming you mean in Texas Hold'em (which you should probably state), then they tie. In Texas Hold'em, you make your best five-card hand out of the seven cards you have available to you. It sounds like from your description that Alice was holding
8 J
and that Bob was holding
4 Q
which would mean that the board had to have on it (since both of them had a straight to the 8)
4 5 6 7 8
which means that the best possible five-card hand that both players could have (in fact, that any player could have*) are the five cards on the board. As such, all players tie.
Essentially, the J/Q in that they are holding aren't even part of their hands when it come to determining the winner, and so are irrelevant.
Edit: * Well, that's not completely true. If another player were holding a 9, or a 9 10, then they would have a straight that was 9 or 10 high, which would obviously beat an 8-high straight.
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Surely if you had a 9 (and 10) you would win the hand? But +1 for a clear answer. – Tim Lymington Nov 16 '14 at 13:03
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Well, yes. But that isn't really part of the situation that he described. – Simon Rose Nov 16 '14 at 13:29
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@SimonRose I think Tim was referring to what you said about the best hand anyone could have. – Cascabel Nov 16 '14 at 18:25
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Fair enough, I should probably clarify that. I was mostly assuming that the two players had the best hands, but I can see how that's not really clear. – Simon Rose Nov 16 '14 at 18:32
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Actually we don't have enough info to know what the nuts are (assuming another player to have it), as we don't know suits or the fifth card on the table; there could be flush or possibly even full house/quad possibilites. – Michael Nov 16 '14 at 20:04
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Oh fine, fair enough. My point though is that everyone has at least a straight to the 8. I suppose it's possible a flush is out there, although no full house or quads could exist (it has to be a 4 5 6 7 8 on the table) – Simon Rose Nov 16 '14 at 20:10