Why does evolution not make our life longer?

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Why does evolution not make life longer for humans or any other species?

Wouldn't evolution favour a long life?

Your question is a little unclear but are you asking "why do we age?/why hasn't evolution made us live forever?" — rg255, May 02 '14 at 06:19
@GriffinEvo yes! why evolution not made us live more? Is not goal of evolution to make us better to let human kind live more? — Majid, May 02 '14 at 06:54
Evolution has no "goal". It is "simply" the survival of the fittest under a given condition. What should be the advantage of living longer? Getting kids (=spreading the own genetic information) is done latest until the mid-40s after that we have not much biological meaning. — Chris, May 02 '14 at 07:44
For the whole species it is advantageous that older individuals die to make more room (and not use up food) from younger generations. Evolution doesn't only work on an individual scale. — vsz, May 02 '14 at 14:59
In addition to @Chris, not only does evolution not have a "goal," evolution doesn't necessarily mean "make us better!" It's absolutely possible to evolve negative traits. — Brian S, May 02 '14 at 15:24
A longer life span would eventually mean either less reproduction or more overcrowding. It seems to me that the former would slow down evolution and make us less adaptive as a species, and the latter is simply suicidal. Of course evolution didn't sit down with Excel and figure all this out. But evolutionally, immortality isn't all it's cracked up to be. :) — cHao, May 02 '14 at 15:56
I note that the question is incoherent in at least two ways. First, you've used "longer" without saying "than something". If we replace "longer" with "longer than 100 years", or "longer than elephants", or "longer than lifespan 10000 years ago" we'd get three different answers. Second, the question presupposes that evolution does not make life longer. Evolution has made life longer for humans than for many other species. Asking "why does X not happen?" when X does happen means the question cannot be sensibly answered. I would clarify your question. — Eric Lippert, May 02 '14 at 21:34
There are a few benefits to aging and death. Firstly, if you have two coexisting (and non-competing) species, one that ages and dies, the other that is immortal and reproduces forever, you'll reach a point where all children of the immortal species die because the large number of adults out compete them. This leaves you with an immortal population with a very slow turnover of individuals and a population that dies of old age with constant genetic fluctuation, much more resilient to change and disease. — Troyseph, May 04 '14 at 09:34
I agree with those who think it's not a good question; it sounds like something a creationist would ask, in order to get more arguments why evolution theory is nonsense. The whole premise is wrong: evolution is not a driving force, it's just a description of what happens. — Mr Lister, May 04 '14 at 15:13
@Chris what you say is true, but how is that relevant to the question? You're also assuming living longer wouldn't increase the number of fertile years, which doesn't have to be so. — ahnbizcad, Nov 30 '14 at 02:06
@gwho It's a comment, not an answer. Besides that, our muh longer life is occurring only for a very short time period (less than 100 years), so evolutionary we haven't adapted to that. I might happen. — Chris, Nov 30 '14 at 08:52
Evolution chooses the best out of available. It can't create best. That can only be a +ve mutation. — YAHB, Jun 29 '15 at 15:58
If this subject really interests you I would strongly suggest taking a look at the book: The selfish gene by Richard Dawkins. I had a blast reading this and in chapter 2 there is a section specificly answering this question, citing G.C. Williams as does the accepted answer. — Dart Feld, Nov 22 '16 at 18:28
@DartFeld Thank you for suggestion! I hope find a free time to give a look at it. :) — Majid, Nov 22 '16 at 18:58
@cHao evolution does not care is something is detrimental to the species, gene level selection driving an species extinct is completely consistent with both evolutionary theory and observations. — John, Jun 12 '19 at 02:58
@John: It is not, however, consistent with some longer-lived species being around to ask the question. :) — cHao, Jun 12 '19 at 14:46
@cHao sure it is, it is perfectly possible to a species to drive itself extinct. Some would argue humans are already doing so. — John, Jun 12 '19 at 16:17
@John: An extinct species wouldn't be around to ask the question. Still waiting for the relevance. — cHao, Jun 12 '19 at 16:28

rg255 · Accepted Answer · 2016-01-27T11:44:59.510

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Why do we age is a classical question in Evolutionary Biology. There are several things to consider when we think of how genes that cause disease, aging, and death to evolve.

One explanation for the evolution of aging is the mutation accumulation (MA) hypothesis. This hypothesis by P. Medawar states that mutations causing late life deleterious (damaging) effects can build up in the genome more than diseases that cause early life disease. This is because selection on late acting mutations is weaker. Mutations that cause early life disease will more severely reduce the fitness of its carrier than late acting mutations. For example, if we said in an imaginary species that all individuals cease to reproduce at 40 years old and a mutation arises that causes a fatal disease at 50 years old then selection can not remove it from the population - carriers will have as many children as those who do not have the gene. Under the mutation accumulation hypothesis it is then possible for mutations to drift through the population.

Another hypothesis which could contribute to aging is the antagonistic pleiotropy (AP) hypothesis of G.C. Williams. Pleiotropy is when genes have more than one effect, such genes tend to cause correlations between traits, height and arm length probably have many of the same genes affecting them, otherwise there would be no correlation between arm length and height (though environment and linkage can also cause these patterns)... Back to AP as an explanation for aging, if a gene improves fitness early in life, but causes late life disease it can spread through the population via selection. The favourable early effect spreads well because of selection and, just as with MA, selection can not "see" the late acting disease.

Under both MA and AP the key point is that selection is less efficient at removing late acting deleterious mutations, and they may spread more rapidly thanks to beneficial early life effects. Also if there is extrinsic mortality (predation etc.) then the effect of selection is also weakened on alleles that affect late life. The same late-life reduction in the efficacy of selection also slows the rate at which alleles increasing lifespan spread.

A third consideration is the disposable-soma model, a description by T. Kirkwood of life-history trade-offs which might explain why aging and earlier death could be favoured. The idea is that individuals have a limited amount of resources available to them - perhaps because of environmental constraints or ability to acquire/allocate the resources. If we then assume that individuals have to use their energy for two things, staying alive via repair and maintenance (somatic-maintenance) and making offspring (reproductive-investment), then any energy devoted to one will take away from the other. If an individual carries a gene that makes it devote all of its energy to somatic maintenance then its fitness will be very low (probably 0!) and that gene will not spread. If the level of maintenance required to live forever costs more energy than an individual can spare without suffering from low fitness (very likely) or can even acquire and efficiently convert in the first place (also very likely) then high-maintenance alleles will not spread (and aging & death will continue to occur).

To go a little further, it is common for sexes to age differently (this is what I work on) and one possible explanation is that the sexes favour different balances of the trade off between somatic-maintenance and reproductive investment, this can lead to conflict over the evolution of genes affecting this balance and slow the rates of evolution to sex specific optima. This paper provides a good review of the area.

To summarise, evolution has not managed to get rid of death via genetic disease etc. (intrinsic mortality) because the effect is only weakly selected against, and those alleles may provide some early life benefit, and resource limitation may also reduce the potential to increase lifespan due to trade-offs with reproductive effort. Adaptive evolution is not about the survival of the fittest but the reproduction of the fittest - the fittest allele is the one which spreads the most effectively.

EDIT: Thanks to Remi.b for also pointing out some other considerations.

Another thought is that of altruistic aging - aging for the good of the population (the population is likely to contain related individuals, you are related to all other humans to some degree). In this model aging is an adaptive process (unlike in MA where it is just a consequence of weak selection). By dying an individual makes space for it's offspring/relatives to survive (because resources are then less likely to limit populations). This will stop excessive population growth which could lead to crashes in the population and so, by dying earlier, an individual promotes the likelihood that its progeny will survive. Arguments of altruistic sacrifice are often hard to promote but recent work suggests that this is a more plausible model than once thought.

Evolvabilty theories also suggest that aging is an adaptive process. These suggest that populations, composed of a mixture of young and old, have biases in how well adapted the members of the population are - where younger individuals are better adapted (because they were produced more recently it is likely that the environment is similar to the environment they are favoured in). Thus by removing the less well adapted individuals from a population via senescence and freeing up resources for younger better adapted individuals, a population evolves more rapidly towards it optimal state.

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answered May 02 '14 at 14:20

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+1 I bet I would never have got 5 upvotes to my answer if you'd had posted your answer earlier $\ddot \smile$ . You don't talk about some hypotheses of the kind "Because our body is not so flexible (most cells are specialized (not very totipotent anymore)) we can't heal from many damages. The population where old individuals free places (by dying) for the younger individuals which are more fit will thrive compared to populations that don't do this (lineage selection)". You may not be so far from giving an exhaustive list of hypotheses that would definitely would make your answer perfect! – Remi.b May 02 '14 at 14:36
Regarding your third consideration; there are 3 things that an organism can spend its resources on: reproducing, growing and maintaining. The third consideration only works if growing is cheaper than maintaining (since if an old organism reproduces and dies a new organism must grow to replace it). – Richard Tingle May 03 '14 at 18:09
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On the other hand, living a bit longer than reproducing can also be good for fitness because then you can help your offspring along until they are old enough to live on their own. (So your 40/50 year example gene might still have a bit of negative selection.) – Paŭlo Ebermann May 03 '14 at 20:23
@RichardTingle I would include both growth and maintenance in somatic maintenance - this is how it is regarded in the literature on the subject – rg255 May 03 '14 at 23:14
@PaŭloEbermann yes, some kin/group selection arguments would reduce the negative effect of living long but it requires some social structure and group selection is generally weak so I chose not to delve to far in to that subject, but yes, if by living longer an individual increases the fitness of its offspring then there is a positive effect of long life via indirect selection – rg255 May 03 '14 at 23:17
@GriffinEvo it seems strange to group them together. If (for example) growth =10 units/year. Maintainance = 5 units/year then (other consideration aside) immortality becomes the optimum choice, whatever the cost of reproduction, since every year an old organism lives you have a net 5 extra units to spend in reproduction. On the other hand if growth=5 units/year and maintenance=10 units/year (seems unlikely; although perhaps repairing a damaged organ could be more complex than building a new one from scratch) then a finite age makes sense – Richard Tingle May 03 '14 at 23:20
@richardtingle your example doesn't give the full picture, it needs more info. if, within a population, the average individual takes up 10 units of energy which it can spend in its life, reproduction events cost 1 unit of energy per offspring produced, and the repair and growth costs 3 units of energy per reproductive cycle then the optimal strategy is to to neglect somatic maintenance (growth AND repair) and have seven offspring in one reproductive event - it's the way to pass the most copies of its genes with its limited budget – rg255 May 04 '14 at 07:42
The evolvability ideas would suggest that, in a stable environment, lifetimes (and reproduction window) will get longer and longer. But we're not seeing this in any lifeforms at all, even in the most stable environments. So, there must be the other factors involved, i.e. that from some point it's easier to build from scratch than to repair, for the same reason that old buildings from the sixties are knocked down instead of being refurbished. About the last sentence: it evolves more rapidly towards a local optimum state. Evolution cannot find global optima in general. – Evgeni Sergeev May 04 '14 at 07:44
@evgenisergeev evolvability is in my eyes a weak argument to the adaptive spread of aging - at best I'd suggest it can offer very weak influences on selection. Like you, I think other factors play a larger roll in shaping the evolution of aging, but many of these above are not mutually exclusive ideas. *and nor do I necessarily agree with the ideas, but this site is about answers based on science, not my opinions :) – rg255 May 04 '14 at 07:49
Do we know why exactly does a bacteria or eukaryotic cell, seen by itself, die of old age? Are its protein structures all crumbling? Is its membrane all wrinkly? Are its organelles cluttered with debris and have bits broken off? If that's so, then the only way an animal can live indefinitely is if it replaces all its cells every so often. And how many animals do you know that can do that? – Evgeni Sergeev May 04 '14 at 07:55
@evgenisergeev RE the last sentence - you may have misinterpreted what I said, to clarify - if we compare two populations, where the resources (inc. space) are limited and the rates of evolution are high such that young are better adapted than old. If in one population we remove the oldest individuals and in the other we remove at random (but equal rate) then (according to evolvability hypothesis) the selectively altered population should be better adapted after time has passed – rg255 May 04 '14 at 07:56
@GriffinEvo I'm not sure I understand this concept of energy/lifetime. Why is an organisms total energy capped? As opposed to its energy/year. If we are getting free radical damage into the equation thats a reason for non infinite age but thats a seperate issue and something evolutions would try to overcome – Richard Tingle May 04 '14 at 16:41
@RichardTingle energy will be capped by the energy content of food, efficiency of energy conversion, ability to find and consume food (spatial and temporal limitations, including spending time doing other things like sleep and reproduction), resource competition... You can ignore the thought of free radicals in regards to this question, it is more why aging evolves (ultimate question) rather than why we age (on a mechanistic level) – rg255 May 04 '14 at 17:47
@GriffinEvo Yes but that is all a cap/year not a cap/lifetime. If it takes 10 years (and 100 units of energy - 10/year) to bring an organism to sexual maturity and 5 units/year to maintain it and 5 units to reproduce. An organism is 10 years old, its total spend is 100 units and its got 10 to spend this year. It can (a) have 2 childern and die or (b) have 1 child and live to next year. If it chooses option (a) it will have 2 children; neither of which will reproduce for 10 years (and 100 units will be effectively thrown away). If it chooses (b) it can keep having 1 child a year indefinately – Richard Tingle May 04 '14 at 18:02
So in a decade from now there will be 2 sexually mature organisms either way. Option (a) it’s the two children and in Option (b) it’s the original organism and the first child. But in option (b) there are also children at ages 9 through 1. Of course all this breaks down if you’ll probably be dead in a year anyway (which in nature probably isn’t an unreasonable assumption). – Richard Tingle May 04 '14 at 18:02
Won't Individuals who are fittest get to reproduce more? If someone lives upto 40 and have 5 children vs if someone lives upto 500 and have 400 children...isn't 2nd one at advantage. Secondly, many life forms seem to live their whole lives without aging much...and i know of one that is actually biologically immortal...aging is no problem to it. Where is error accumulation in them?. I agree with the theory that for a group with limited resources natural selection would favor formula where weak gets replaced by stronger ones..However, more favorable group would be in which no one gets weak. – Muhammad Umer May 05 '14 at 06:49
@RichardTingle The disposable soma model is a TRADEOFF scenario - in your example that does not happen (individuals have enough resources to reach 10 years regardless of strategy). The idea is that an individual can not secure the resources necessary to both produce the most number of offspring per reproductive episode and maintain/grow indefinitely. – rg255 May 05 '14 at 08:13
@MuhammadUmer See above - the disposable soma is a TRADEOFF, an individual can either prioritise reproduction or maintenance because it is resource limited so it is not as simple as your example. As for biological immortality, it does appear in some species (lobsters is one example) and rate of aging varies between species. Immortality is probably not ubiquitous because it likely requires complex cellular machinery and species where it occurs could boom and collapse due to over-population/resource depletion. – rg255 May 05 '14 at 08:19
@Griffin Under my example I'm assuming an animal does not become reproductively active until 10 years, what you're saying makes sense if you could have 1 child ever or live forever, but I don't see the mistake in my maths where you can trade off halving reproduction per year to increase life by 1 year (each year - so effectively half rate for immortality). The avoidance of boom and bust makes sense however – Richard Tingle May 05 '14 at 08:58

score 22 · Answer 2 · edited Mar 18 '19 at 21:52

This is a very good question.

There is a big ongoing field of research called "evolution of aging/senescence" that tackles this question. I won't give you a complete overview of the different hypothesis the could explain why we age but here is a fundamental concept that is to know.

We'll assume that there is some extrinsic mortality, mortality against which a lineage won't ever be able to escape and I think it is not an assumption that is hard to meet. Therefore, an allele that has age-specific effect such as decreasing the fecundity at age 3 will undergo a higher selection pressure and will faster get eliminated from the population than another allele causing the same decrease in fecundity but at age 4 because some individuals would have died between age 3 and age 4. In other words, natural selection is more efficient at lower age than at higher age. Now, imagine in humans an allele that increases the reproductive success of an individual at age 20 by decreasing the survival at age 78. This allele will easily spread in the population. Such alleles are said to have age-specific antagonist pleiotropic effect. And empirical studies have shown that alleles that have antagonist age-specific antagonist pleiotropic exist.

In short, it is because there is some extrinsic mortality that natural selection acts with a different strength at different ages allowing some deleterious allele at old age to fix in the population especially if those alleles have age-specific antagonist pleiotropic effect. You'll find in this book mathematical formulation and more complete discussion of this effect

Other hypotheses exist which are based on lineage selection, group selection or on the mutation-selection balance.

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Actually, genetically, there is no reason for animals to continue to exist after they have procreated.

If you look at salmon, they die immediately after procreating, which is probably the most efficient way to carry the best genes to the next generation.

In the case of mammals, they need to teach their offspring where to find food, where to find water and how to avoid dangers.

In the case of humans, that goes into the third generation, so most humans know their parents and their grandparents, and even they live with them in some cultures, since their experiences and ideas are taken as very important.

So maybe the question should be the opposite, why do we live to see our grandchildren grow?

Taking your same question to the opposite: why do people die? Why don't they live forever instead of reproducing? I can think of various reasons for this. Imagine a race that lives forever and another race who have a lot of children early on and then die. Now imagine a contagious disease that spreads among both populations. Which race has the most probability of survival?

Of course, the race that reproduces rapidly has a better chance.

And also, evolution works wonders for the race that reproduces rapidly instead of the race that lives forever. Meaning the number of years a species live has carefully been "designed out" by evolution.

Evolution would not work if it didn't stabilize around the best genes. And that's exactly what happens with humans. Most humans have the same traits: live around the same number of years, and have more or less the same abilities, most differences are almost irrelevant.

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Another example for this line of argument: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/absurd-creature-of-the-week-this-marsupial-has-marathon-sex-until-it-goes-blind-and-drops-dead/ – Hans May 02 '14 at 20:12
There is an exception to the statement that animals dont need to live after they have procreated, and that's in most social mammal groups, the older patriarchs or matriarchs use their memory to guide the group away from danger and towards food. Especially with humans, where the oldest naturally occuring individuals are about 80-90 that help to guide the group, see native american tribes for example. In other social animal groups, the oldest individuals often have a role to play in guiding travel,i.e. elephants. – bandybabboon Nov 23 '14 at 23:19
I get what you're saying, but I must first object to "reason for animals to continue". This language is hard to avoid, but it does imbue a certain paradigm or assumption that genes are the purpose (there is no purpose in evolution), while the phenotype and the boday are carriers. It's a useful paradigm to analyze the essence of evolution, which are the genes, but that wording confounds and obfuscates clear thinking, which is necessary to tackle questions like these. – ahnbizcad Nov 30 '14 at 02:00
Animals after reproducing can have a "purpose" if they reproduce more. having multiple kids. If they can extend their fertile years, that would be reproductively advantageous, and help with those genes surviving. This is naturally assumed when anyone asks "why don't we live longer" with some awareness of evolution. If we live longer, they are also assuming fertile years be longer as well. – ahnbizcad Nov 30 '14 at 02:01
Here is an idea: if animals lived long past their fertile years, they would take up resources (less food, safe ground, etc), and leave less for the offspring which do/can reproduce. (Species may not compete for resources with vastly different species, but they certainly do compete with members of their own species.) Having a bunch of old, non-reproducing individuals would put a damper of the chances of survivability of their offspring. This is only one isolated effect to be superimposed with other effects which may take precedence or overshadow this effect. – ahnbizcad Nov 30 '14 at 02:03

score 13 · Answer 4 · answered May 02 '14 at 17:24

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Because evolution isn't about individuals: it's about species. What matters to natural selection isn't how long you live, but how many grandchildren you have. A long lifespan can be an evolutionary advantage, but like any trait, it's only an advantage to the extent that allows you to reproduce more.

It would seem that a longer lifespan would be advantageous anyway, because it would give you more time to reproduce. However, for reasons we don't yet fully understand, it doesn't seem to work out that way in practice. Most organisms (assuming they live long enough) eventually reach an age where they stop reproducing. Even humans do this, and although we've managed to increase the average lifespan quite a bit over the course of recorded human history (to say nothing of the millennia before that), the average age at which people stop reproducing apparently hasn't changed very much.

Why not? What makes this an evolutionary advantage over having more reproductive years? This is one of those things that we haven't really figured out yet. There are a number of competing theories, and the other answers here go into some of them. But the most direct way to answer your question is fairly simple: longer lifespans (and/or reproductive years) haven't given us, or our children, any more success at reproducing. Thus, there is no pressure on the species to live longer, and so it doesn't happen.

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longer lifespans haven't given us more success at reproducing why do you say that? – Muhammad Umer May 05 '14 at 06:51
Technically, evolution isn't even about species, but about aleles. Something can be an advantage to a gene, even if it provides no advantage to the species; for example retroviruses. – Viliam Búr May 05 '14 at 07:42
@MuhammadUmer: It's interesting, just because it seems so counterintuitive, but if you look at the period over which human lifespans have been increasing, the birthrates have actually gone down, not up. Nowadays, many of the nations with the longest life expectancies actually have some of the lowest birthrates, and vice versa. There probably isn't a direct causal link here -that is to say, the birthrate probably isn't dropping because people are living longer- but the fact remains that lifespans are going up in some parts of the world, but where that's happening, birthrates aren't going up. – The Spooniest May 05 '14 at 12:07
First i don't think this effect among humans, that countries with highest expectancy have lowest birth rate, is the result of evolution. But could be a hint as to why it may happen in Evolution. Shorter the lifespan in the country the poorer the population..The reason recent study discovered that poor like to have many children while richer parents often opt for 1 or 2 max, is because value of the Amount of wealth that gets divided among children goes very high as parents get richer... – Muhammad Umer May 05 '14 at 14:51
...on the other hand poor man can have 10 children and they would still be relatively as rich as only 2 would have been. For rich the effect multiplies...if you were going to inherit 10 million if you were only one child...but if you had 9 other siblings you'd get only 1 million. Loss of 9 million. If you were poor, then instead of inheriting $5000. you get $500 Both won't last more than a month. – Muhammad Umer May 05 '14 at 14:52
@MuhammadUmer: I think you're right. It's not the result of evolution, but it may explain why evolution isn't going the way that the original question was asking about. It's just like you say: having fewer children is a good economic strategy if you are rich, because it means that you don't have to divide your wealth as much. But it is a bad evolutionary strategy (whether or not you're rich), because you can't get your genes out into the wider species unless you have many children. And so even though economic factors are helping people live longer, we don't evolve along those lines. – The Spooniest May 05 '14 at 15:45
Wow, you should work in politics or PR. You've done a wonderful job of repeating the question without answering it, in a very eloquent way, giving the impression that you've said something smart or worthwhile.
Also, you start off by saying evolution isn't about the individual, and then directly contradict yourself, saying living longer would help you reproduce more. Of course it will help you reproduce more if you have more fertile years, barring other linked genes. Yes, it's about the individual. The individual shares genes with others, also making it about the species. It's both, not one.
– ahnbizcad Nov 30 '14 at 01:54
@gwho: I did not contradict myself. I said that it seems like living longer ought to help a person reproduce more, but in practice, it hasn't worked out that way (i.e. that living longer actually hasn't helped people reproduce more). There is no contradiction there: it's a simple difference between what's intuitive -such as the original question's reasoning, which is why I mentioned it- and what works out. The question wasn't about the evolution of the aging process, but why evolution hasn't given us longer lifespans, and so I even answered that. Your attacks on me are uncalled for. – The Spooniest Nov 30 '14 at 20:20
One factual inaccuracy here: Most organisms (assuming they live long enough) eventually reach an age where they stop reproducing. This simply is not true. It is true that fecundity decreases with age, but it is not true that it goes to zero in most species in the wild. Rather, humans are quite unusual in that human females go through menopause. – Corvus May 11 '15 at 05:47
I think you're right. The true evolutionary stable strategy has people able to never get too old to reproduce. If a mutant woman who reproduces asexually and happened to have the right genome arose, her clones would outcompete the rest of humanity. After that, if another mutant woman who's like a hydra and could had a rate of death that remains constant at 1/3000 years under laboratory conditions and can keep reproducing until she dies, her clones would outcompete humanity. After they spread, they would have a rate of death by competition that remains constant at 1/30 years. – Timothy Dec 18 '16 at 19:05

score 7 · Answer 5 · answered May 02 '14 at 15:53

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If you take the line of "The Selfish Gene - Richard Dawkins". Evolution doesn't care about individuals, it cares about genes. So as long as the genes are passed along reliably into the future, evolution may do it with 4 generations per 100 years or 100 generations per 100 years.

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Lifeforms that we know tend to have a mature state towards which they rapidly develop, and then live for a while after that. What about a hypothetical lifeform, such that the longer an individual survived, the more successful it became? Suppose its tool of choice was intelligence, and it was a a whale with four human hands, and its brain kept growing and it became smarter and smarter every year... I guess there is still a limit at which it can't improve... But this thought experiment shows that if a lifeform can find a way to develop further during its life, its life expectancy will grow. – Evgeni Sergeev May 04 '14 at 08:22
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The evolutionary drive works on preferential survival of children. So in such a species such as you suggest, the children of older members would have to be preferentially selected over the offspring of younger members. – user6571 May 05 '14 at 08:22
We can arrange that. Just as in countries with higher IQ, the life expectancy is longer, because they can organise better healthcare for themselves, perhaps the growing brain will improve the medical skills of this hypothetical animal, and it would preferentially provide medical help to its own children first. (Assuming it's a universally benevolent species; if it's partially or fully malevolent, you can also imagine how the cleverer older individuals' children will be better off.) – Evgeni Sergeev May 06 '14 at 04:43
This then becomes involved in politics and the organisation of healthcare. – user6571 May 06 '14 at 12:34
@user6571 I just commented OP to take a look at this book before even seeing your answer. Extremely good book on the subject. – Dart Feld Nov 22 '16 at 19:08
I agree with your first principle of the replication/survival of the genes. However, your conclusion is unclear. What do you mean by "doesn't care about individuals"? Are you saying the individual life span is irrelevant to the gene replication/survival? That is a strong claim without proof. In fact, I contend thos is a priori wrong. If the life span of the individual improves the replication/survival of the gene, there will be the tendency for the gene to increase the individual life span. – Hans May 04 '17 at 21:42

score 5 · Answer 6 · answered May 02 '14 at 14:02

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There is no selection mechanism that would favor high age.

By the time it's apparent whether or not an individual can reach a high age healthily, they'll have ceased all reproductive activity.

Conversely, people who get cancer at 45 will have likely reproduced already.

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This assumes an organism becomes long lived while still stopping reproducing early rather than the whole of life extending. – Richard Tingle May 03 '14 at 18:13
but shouldn't genetic variations result in individuals that are of higher age than average age at which they cease all reproductivity. Thus being at advantage..then why that advantage hasn't been represented among humans?..to me this conclusion is flawed. – Muhammad Umer May 05 '14 at 06:54

score 5 · Answer 7 · answered May 03 '14 at 18:34

To an extent it does; in that we live longer than our mouse-like ancestors. So the question becomes: why not keep extending it to immortality.

The key thing is that evolution cares only about the survival of your genes; so if you live for 1000 years or if 10 generations of your family have 1 individual's worth of your genes in each generation (each living for 100 years) this is equivalently successful.

But this assumes it's either-or that an organism can reproduce or live a long time, could it not do both? In principle it could but the resources of a particular niche are limited so in order to avoid mass starvation the reproductive rate must reduce as the average age of the individuals go up.

So this suggests having very long lived individuals is no better than having short lived individuals, but is it at least equal? Sadly not, if fewer new individuals are born then the rate of evolution of that species is reduced. A very long lived species is less able to respond to environmental changes. As such over an evolutionary timescale an extraordinarily long lived animal is likely to be outcompeted by a shorter lived species.

Of course there is a natural breakeven point; there is a considerable cost in bringing an individual from infant to reproductive adult so once they've got there it makes sense to keep them around for a while, but not indefinitely.

score 3 · Answer 8 · edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48

I am assuming that by longer life, you mean slower aging, because evolution can do little if a mountain falls on a person!

So, why don’t organisms have slower, or better, zero rate of aging?

The theory I am describing is based upon life history theory. Life history theory assumes that:

Resources available to any organism are limited,
Life processes like ‘reproduction’ and ‘repair and maintenance of the body’ are costly with respect to resource consumption, and resources directed towards one life process must be directed away from the other. Hence a trade off mechanism between the different life processes must exist.

Based on this data, one can infer that given a specie with a given death rate of extrinsic causes (causes beyond that of aging, like getting eaten), one can use a little mathematics to find the average life span of the organism if the organism does not ages. Simple…?

Now, given that the average life span of the non-aging specie is limited, do you really think that the optimum life strategy of the specie would be zero aging? Remember that to not to get old one needs to spend energy, and that all the energy gone in maintaining health will certainly be wasted in the form of dead bodies once the organism dies.

Hence, given a mechanism through which trade off of resources between life processes is possible, the organisms must invest a little more towards reproduction and a little less towards repair and maintenance? Why? Just to reduce the loss of resources in the form of dead bodies and to increase reproductive success, which is what gets counted in the end!

So, indeed, having zero rate of aging has disadvantages! It would be more advantageous if organisms age with a fixed specie specific rate.

Now, time to make few points clear:

This theory assumes Life history theory to be correct. I am not saying- “hello there- this is the correct reason of aging!” I am saying- “This is the correct theory of aging if life history theory is correct!” So, if you do not believe in life history theory, then get busy trying to prove it wrong. The theory I have discussed stands on the shoulder of a giant. On the other hand, if you believe that the theory I discuss does not follows from Life History theory, then lets hear your argument.
This theory also assumes that aging happens due to lack of repair and maintenance of constantly occurring body damages. The special thing about this theory is that it gives a non-altruistic mechanism through which aging can directly benefit the organism. Hence, this theory makes it easier for us to explain why aging got natural selection- because it has benefits!

I found this theory on this SE question, where the question has now been put on hold due to dubious reasons. Also, the OP mentions this book- Modern Biological theory and experiments on Celibacy, which, I think, was one of the reasons why the question was put on hold!

Why does evolution not make our life longer?

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