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Just wondering if anyone out there has tried this particular rim+tyre bead combination. I had a hell of an experience with GP 5000 TLs on other bike (Mavic Kysirum Elite rims) which turned out to be so tight I couldn't fit them by the roadside in the event of a puncture. Looking around online, I've since discovered this combination of rim+(tubeless)tyre-bead is renowned as being particularly tough to fit.

I'm tempted to try these same tyres on my other bike because they performed so well while actually riding. I'll go for the non-tubeless version in the hope the bead will be a little easier to stretch over the rim.

My question:

Will it be possible to fit and repair this rim+tyre-bead combo without losing a few hours and the skin on my knuckles each time I puncture? The intended combo is Mavic Allroad Elite UST Disk + Conti GP 5000 folding 700 x 30C.

Sadly I no longer have my old GP5000 TL tyres so I can't just try it out without purchasing a new set.

Any experience much appreciated. Cheers,

Harley

Harley Day
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  • What is exactly the question? Why not tubeless? A thing I like with this series of Mavic wheels is the fact that the rim has no holes inside, which removes one failure point for tubeless. Other advantage of tubeless: except for the really big holes, roadside repairs are done with the tire on the wheel, no need to unmount it. – Rеnаud Feb 14 '23 at 15:41
  • Because the OP thinks that the combination is difficult to install? BTW, I think the pictures don't exactly add value to the question. – ojs Feb 14 '23 at 16:30
  • Tubeless is lovely, and I like riding it. In this case, I'm going to avoid it for two reasons:
    1. I'm worried about using GP5000 TLs because I previously found their bead to be so tight and thick that it was near impossible to fit to my road bike's rims. I'm hoping a regular non-tubeless bead will be a little easier to get on the rim.
     – Harley Day Feb 14 '23 at 16:32
  • I'll be riding a long endurance race, and want easy-to-fix setup. Tubeless is great so long as you have extra sealant and a good track pump. It becomes neigh on impossible to fix if there's any kind of large tear in the tyre wall and your tubeless valve gets stuck in the rim (also had this happen). I want a system I can reliably fix with cold fingers at night in the dark with just a mini-pump and some basic patches. I'm not keen on taking extra sealant, or putting up with getting inner tubes covered in tyre sealant so they become harder to patch with vulcanising rubber solution.
    • – Harley Day Feb 14 '23 at 16:33
  • Yeah, fair enough regarding the pictures. I'm just trying to jog the memory of anyone who actually runs this kit. Mavic appear to have discontinued this particular wheel so I want to make sure no-one looks it up on their website and ends up talking about a completely different wheelset. – Harley Day Feb 14 '23 at 16:35
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    GP5000 are notoriously hard to fit, so it's not sure that the combo is relevant for the answer: except training to fit tires, there's not so much that can be done. If roadside repair is your priority, maybe better to find another tire. Otherwise, you can have a look to this info: https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/69475/are-tubeless-continental-gp5000s-harder-to-mount-than-non-tubeless-normal-clinc – Rеnаud Feb 14 '23 at 18:50
  • Another relevant post is https://bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/63961/19705 which can help with stubborn tyres like Schwable Marathons too. Definitely not a fast process for in a race. – Criggie Mar 12 '23 at 22:58