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Why are stealth aircraft not painted sky blue on the bottom to make them hard to see by looking up from the ground?

At night or with clouds between the plane and ground, the plane won't be visible anyway, so color doesn't matter then. On a clear day, however, wouldn't it be harder to see the plane if it matched the color of the sky?

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    Because they're not trying to be stealthy in visible wavelengths... They fly too high for that to be much of a worry – ScottishTapWater Dec 05 '22 at 22:10
  • see visuals (in both Q and A's) at Why does Unity look transparent? I still don't understand why they downvoted it @@ It seems that dark is better at high altitudes, "sky blue" at lower altitudes, thus those "flying lightbulb" experiments. – uhoh Dec 06 '22 at 14:10
  • Are you certain there aren't any? – monguin Dec 06 '22 at 18:13
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    @ScottishTapWater I dunno, optical sensors are a bigger thing than they used to be. Although I'd be willing to bet that "sky blue" is not going to fool a modern optical sensor, I'm reminded of that Tesla that smashed into the side of a semi because it was white and incidentally matched the color of the horizon and the optical sensor couldn't tell the difference. – JamieB Dec 06 '22 at 19:56
  • Aye of course, but the thing with optical sensors is that they can't deal with clouds either and require some pretty complicated optics to work well. They exist, sure, but they're generally used for secondary tracking more than anything. – ScottishTapWater Dec 06 '22 at 21:57
  • @monguin well I for one haven't seen any... :-) – uhoh Dec 06 '22 at 22:17
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    Anecdotally, my father was an intelligence officer/instructor for the US military for more than fifty years. He told me that the F-117 was black because a high-ranking Air Force general (4 stars) said he, the general, wanted it black because black was "meaner". No operational reasons, just wanted a "manly-man" aircraft. – JohnHunt Dec 07 '22 at 04:26

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Because they are rarely tracked by eyeball. Any eyeball guided missile is short range enough to be defeated by altitude. Or if they are low enough, they aren't around long enough for the eye to acquire and track.

Instead, radar. Which does not care about paint color.

But the F-22 and -35 are a pretty much neutral/camo grey. I'd strongly wager that multiple color schemes were tried and tested before coming up with the current paintjobs.

And some are, sort of. The paint for the F-35 65th Aggressor Squadron at Nellis resembles the Russian and Chinese entries. And they are a little bit 'bluish' in places. https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/06/24/u-s-air-force-new-aggressor-paint-scheme-wont-impact-f-35s-stealth/

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    Paint can have a very real effect on radar reflectivity. Special paints are therefore used for stealthy aircraft. This was especially a problem for the B-2 and F-117 which were found to have their stealthiness decreased significantly when operating in wet environments where the paint would degrade under influence of rain. That hadn't been observed when testing the aircraft and paint as that had happened in the bone dry environment of the California and Nevada deserts! – jwenting Dec 05 '22 at 08:09
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    True but enemies need multiple detection methods to pin down a stealth aircraft. One spot of a Stealth aircraft by a military observer can aid the other systems. – user2617804 Dec 05 '22 at 08:15
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    @jwenting - The paint formulation and application can absolutely have an effect on radar reflectivity. Color, not so much. They even have a robotic arm to apply the paint, to ensure totally even layer. – WPNSGuy Dec 05 '22 at 10:58
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    @WPNSGuy the specific pigments can have an effect, thus the colour. – jwenting Dec 05 '22 at 11:53
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    I suspect that the paint color for military aircraft would often be more useful to camouflage it while it is on the ground rather than in the air. – BlackThorn Dec 05 '22 at 16:29
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    @jwenting The pigments have an effect just like the other stuff in the paint, but not because of their color. Color is not a property that effects radar absorption or reflectivity. – Carl Kevinson Dec 05 '22 at 16:53
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    @CarlKevinson colour isn't directly, but pigment determines colour so indirectly it does have an effect :) – jwenting Dec 06 '22 at 06:49
  • @BlackThorn Interesting idea. Does the US military (I know there are others) park airplanes in places where hostile forces could get at them? It seems like if an attacker is close enough that they could visually identify planes on the ground, something has already gone drastically wrong. – nasch Dec 06 '22 at 20:48
  • In addition to this great answer, the color of the aircraft can affect its heat signature, which is the amount of heat it emits. A sky blue color would reflect more sunlight and heat, which could make the aircraft easier to detect using infrared sensors, thus make it more unstealthy. – Skye-AT Dec 07 '22 at 05:37
  • @Skye-AT the increased emissivity of black against a cold sky could have a similar effect - thermal emission signatures are hard to manage (and carbon black paint is conductive to a variable extent, which can be good if done just right; in fact graphite loaded materials were some of the first radar-absorbing coatings) – Chris H Dec 07 '22 at 11:30
  • @nasch There is a long history of camouflaging airfields in wartime. Not all nations have an ocean between them and their adversaries. And certainly not all military bases. – BlackThorn Dec 07 '22 at 21:46
  • @BlackThorn Yes, history. What about currently? And I'm aware there are other countries with air forces, which is why I mentioned that in my comment and said I'm thinking of the US specifically. – nasch Dec 08 '22 at 19:37
  • There's a lot of answers and comments here about heat signatures, radar reflectivity, etc. What is not commonly known is that the heat of the aircraft skin is not commonly used for the initial detection of a low-radar-observable aircraft from the ground. Radiation shadowing is used, and this is completely unaffected by any color you chose to paint the airplane. Cosmic radiation is constantly entering the atmosphere, day and night. A passive search sensor looks for a tiny dot in the sky that is silhouetted against this radiation backdrop. Used reliably in many systems for decades. – Max R Dec 10 '22 at 08:00
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The sky in most of the world, most of the time, isn't blue. It's various shades of grey. A blue aircraft would stick out like a sore thumb against grey skies. This was found out already during WW2 when your thinking was applied by several nations to paint the bellies of their aircraft. Most of them rather quickly switched to various shades of grey (though possibly economics and availability of blue dyes may have been a factor as well) :)

About the only ones who didn't change to grey during WW2 were the US Navy and Marines, they continued painting their aircraft (dark) blue all over into the Korean war, probably because it might make them harder to spot against the blue water of the sea (which often isn't blue either, but that's another story) as well as because it was tradition by then to paint them blue.

But even they switched to grey by the time of the Vietnam war, when the Air Force was still using woodland camouflage on their aircraft.

The British tried various shades of pink and yellow during both WW2 and Desert Shield/Storm to make detection of low flying aircraft against a desert background harder, but they quickly came back from that (probably in part because repainting aircraft each time they are sent to a different theater is expensive and time consuming).

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    Even when the sky is blue, it can still have quite a range of different hues and brightnesses, and a mismatch will again stand out. A grey plane meanwhile can be readily confused for a wisp of cloud. – leftaroundabout Dec 05 '22 at 12:46
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    @leftaroundabout that too. And there's weird things going on all over. Like the RAF discovered that glossy black is actually MORE visible in the UK skies than the orange and red they'd been using before for their training aircraft. – jwenting Dec 05 '22 at 12:57
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    Wasn't there also an experiment to disguise the bottom of some prop-era aircraft by covering it with lights, making it as bright as the sky above it? – jeffronicus Dec 05 '22 at 18:09
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    @jeffronicus that'd be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yehudi_lights and results were mixed – GremlinWranger Dec 06 '22 at 09:28
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Coloring of military planes changes, because, and when, typical strategy of use changes.

The first wide used stealth plane, F-117 was colored just black, because it was built only for top secret night missions, and the same considerations chose the color of the B-2.

But other military planes are used in other conditions, or have other considerations, so other schemes were chosen.

Examples:

  • During WWII, planes were mostly colored green, because they were mostly worried about camouflaging them while on the ground, and it was not considered significant, how far they could been detected in flight;

  • When, after two world wars, it just so happened that the world pursued for speed, and due to the advent of the rocket/space race, most planes were just polished and covered by a transparent varnish, because it was considered that, their time ending (will lose to rockets and to lasers), and they will be detected by radars, and polished surface considered better for speed;

  • Then a lot of camouflage schemes were used, each country created its own, some schemes even are different on the top and bottom (Ukrainian planes on top are camouflaged to hide when looking on them with the ground as a background, and on bottom, they are sky blue);

  • Now, the newest B-21 is shown in light gray, and this fact could tell us that it is considered to be used on typical cloudy day.

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    part of the reason for the black paint on the F-117 and B-2 (apart from cosmetic and mission) was that the special radar absorbent pigments used in their paints were black. – jwenting Dec 06 '22 at 06:52
  • @jwenting, may be You right. I seen b/w photos of "dirty" U-2, covered with absorbent coating, I can't remember any suggestions about it's real color. But I also know from chemistry, it is relatively easy, to make multilayered coating, and this is not something special, it is used at least from 1990th, example automobiles with color named "wet asphalt". – Serge Sergeev Dec 10 '22 at 03:06
  • adding more layers increases mass, which is something you don't do with aircraft unless you absolutely have to – jwenting Dec 10 '22 at 04:35
  • Per the B-21, I'm surprised more supersonic aircraft aren't painted white or a shade of light gray to reflect more visible and IR light. Surface heat due to drag is inevitable. So using a dark color will only cause the external surfaces to heat up even faster. – David Kryzaniak Dec 10 '22 at 05:12
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    @DavidKryzaniak This is not the case now. Approx in 2000s invented pigments, which look dark, but reflect IR, near like white. These pigments already used even in office buildings, so they are not prohibitively expensive for military. – Serge Sergeev Mar 02 '23 at 22:59
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One other thing to keep in mind is that the bottom of an aircraft is by definition in the "shade" most of the time, that is, the side facing the most away from the sun during most of the daylight hours. As such, looking up at the sky the aircraft will look darker no matter what color it is due to essentially being "lit from behind". Thus, painting a color that matches the sky would essentially be self-defeating because you would see something darker than the sky itself. If you want to minimize the chances of being seen from below the best color might be a matte white, so as to appear as light as possible from underneath, while avoiding reflected flares which would make the aircraft visible from further than usual. This will still not work if the sun is directly or close to directly above (behind) the aircraft as it will still appear almost black due to the extreme contrast in lighting between the light source and the underside of the aircraft.

Of course, as other answers indicate, the aircraft color often makes little difference because of the threat model, e.g. flying too high or too fast for it to make a difference if somebody visually spots it. For slower moving aircraft that may linger it may make sense. Some aircraft such as police helicopters often have white on the bottom, although I doubt it makes much difference.

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I have to say that the newer. Last maybe 5-6 years the flight check aircraft have been painted sky blue top and bottom. As I understand it they were used to check flight procedures in Afghanistan and maybe Iraq I believe. One day when they were newly painted I over heard a pilot ask the controller what they thought of the new paint scheme. The controller responded that it was harder to see. To pilots response what that’s what they were hoping he would say.

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  • That was a very specific situation, with a very specific colour of the sky. Had they flown the same aircraft with the same paint scheme against a dull grey British sky the effect would have been quite different. – jwenting Dec 06 '22 at 06:50