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Suppose that I start taking long-distance airline flights, and that after each flight I immediately jump on to another aircraft that takes off for another faraway destination - and continue doing this, indefinitely.

In other words, I'm going to live the rest of my life travelling on airliners.

What's going to kill me first:

  • an airline accident or incident
  • excessive radiation exposure
  • some other flying-related health risk
  • old age?

If the answer is old age, then let's suppose for the sake of the question that I'm also going to live indefinitely, until one of the other factors does me in.

Exclusions

I'm only interested in risks that are specific to flying. I suspect that breaking my neck falling down the steps or choking to death on an in-flight peanut might be higher, but they don't count, because I use stairs and eat peanuts regularly anyway.

I guess exposure to infectious diseases (and other risks associated with the airline cabin environment) should count, since air travel does increase those significantly.

The health risks of an airline food diet are excluded though, especially if I decide to fly economy class. So is dying of despair.

However, the risk of severe food poisoning should be included.

Finally, I'm only flying on scheduled flights on reputable airlines.

The comparison

As you can probably gather, the device of the hypothetical permanent travel is simply a way of framing the risks for the sake of comparison. I'm not really interested in what it might be like to fly forever, but in the quantum of risks in airline travel.

On the other hand there presumably come a point where the frequency of travel means that some risks become disproportionately more significant (e.g. eating 70 airline meals a year might be simply unpleasant, but eating 700 would be to suffer from a genuinely unhealthy diet).

However I can't think of any risks of that kind that would start to increase at a rate greater than frequency of flying, within any normal flying frequencies.

Future risk changes

I assume that flying is going to continue to become ever-safer, which could mean that the risk of an incident or accident will fall over time while (say) health risks don't. For the sake of a fair comparison, let's say that even into the far future the risks will remain as they are today.

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    I think this is probably opinion based since I doubt that there are stats to support an answer to this entirely hypothetical question. The answer is old age but since you have discounted that, radiation exposure is probably the next which I would expect to get you after a few hundred years. You'd have to fly for tens of thousands of years before being involved in a crash. – Simon Jul 16 '17 at 14:00
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    The trip to the airport. – 60levelchange Jul 16 '17 at 14:41
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    @Simon opinion-based? You mean the last 100+ years of commercial aviation has failed to accumulate and analyse statistical data about risk? All the data to calculate these risks already exist. Or do you imagine that flight risks, radiation exposure risks, life expectancy and others are a matter of opinion? The question is eminently answerable using those data as a basis. – Daniele Procida Jul 16 '17 at 14:43
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    @DanieleProcida The risks are so small that there is no statistically accurate way to answer your question. – 60levelchange Jul 16 '17 at 14:44
  • @J.Hougaard The risks are quantifiable, and an area of active research. http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/faqs/commercialflights.html, just for the example of radiation exposure. – Daniele Procida Jul 16 '17 at 14:54
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    If you remove the "live forever" bit, then yes, they are answerable, and "old age" would win by a long way making all other risks insignificant. But you have constrained the question such that the statistics are so small (tiny, tiny percentages in millions of flights), that the question becomes unanswerable. – Simon Jul 16 '17 at 14:55
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    Heh, I see the maniacs for closing questions are out in force again today. – Daniele Procida Jul 16 '17 at 14:56
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    The rudeness is unwelcome. "Or do you imagine that flight risks, radiation exposure risks, life expectancy and others are a matter of opinion?". You removed life expectancy. The "flight risks" are not statistically significant and radiation exposure is a strong candidate but how, given that you have constrained the definitive answer, could you possibly measure that against food poisoning, infectious diseases and other random events? – Simon Jul 16 '17 at 15:03
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    I don't think the question is unanswerable, even with no age limit, though answering might require expertise in health domain that might be lacking here. A factor may create a risk which becomes effective only when added to other risks (like it might be for cancer, for instance), this makes the answer more difficult. – mins Jul 16 '17 at 15:06
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    I find it pretty rude to dismiss carefully-constructed questions with what seem to be unthinking or even unreading reactions, of the kind that this forum sees all-too-often. Of course these risks are tiny. But there is an entire industry devoted to very small but quantifiable risks, that uses vast longitudinal and large-cohort data to compare them, and is able to state: "percentage risk of falling victim to risk A in X years is Y; of risk B, it's Z" etc. These are not just matters of opinion. – Daniele Procida Jul 16 '17 at 15:15
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    @DanieleProcida I agree with your last comment about very small but quantifiable risks not being a matter of opinion. However, that may make this more of a statistics question or an insurance underwriting type question and you may not find an appropriate expert here on this site. The experts here tend to have a different type of expertise in the aviation arena. Good luck, you never know who might run across this question and have the perfect background to answer though! – Lnafziger Jul 16 '17 at 19:00
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    I agree with @mins. It is an answerable question but it is probably best done in a thesis, rather than an internet forum. So unless someone has already done one you're unlikely to get an adequate answer here - but is that reason enough to close the question? – Ben Jul 16 '17 at 21:40
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    @Ben: Correct, this is not a valid reason, someone may be able to answer one day this interesting question. – mins Jul 16 '17 at 23:31
  • I think stroke, cancer, and heart attacks or something? Car crashes is also somewhere on the list? – Ryan Mortensen Jul 16 '17 at 23:54
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    I'm voting to repoen. It is a well constructed question indeed, and an internet meeting place like this is exactly where you may run into someone with apliccable knowledge. I really do not understand why we have very vocal people here who see it as their task to censor everything outside of their own personal knowledge. – Koyovis Jul 17 '17 at 00:38
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    Reducto absurdum can be a fun game to play, but what you have set up is an unrealistic premise; you are idea farming, which is why "opinion based" is what your question remains. -1. (And you'd probably die of boredom first ... ) – KorvinStarmast Jul 17 '17 at 14:28
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    Boredom comes to mind............... – Trevor_G Jul 17 '17 at 20:07

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Risks of dying of air travel are tiny. We can find data on direct risks of air travel, and there is an app for calculating how many years of continuous flying would lead to known aviation related chance of dying. Tiny.

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Some risks ore harder to quantify though. If you fly economy class, you may be exposing yourself to the health risk of excessive sitting. It damages blood vessels and may lead to Deep Vein Thrombosis which can cause sudden death. From this news article of 23 Oct 2000:

Emma Christoffersen, 28, died from deep vein thrombosis (DVT) believed to have been caused by sitting for several hours on the 12,000-mile flight to Heathrow from Sydney. Medical experts said she was one of the youngest victims of DVT, a sudden illness caused by lack of movement over a sustained period that claims the lives of a number of airline passengers each year.

Also, you're excluding the effects of airline food. An economy class meal costs between USD 2.- and 10.-, how good is that for someone to eat day in day out?

Air travel is not an activity that is good for health if undertaken on a daily basis. During a long economy class flight people should get up for a brief stroll every few hours or so, and once landed should be vigorously walking around in the sunshine over the course of a couple of days to reset their blood flow and health before taking another flight. Like pilots do.

From Mayoclinic.org:

One study compared adults who spent less than two hours a day in front of the TV or other screen-based entertainment with those who logged more than four hours a day of recreational screen time. Those with greater screen time had:

  • A nearly 50 percent increased risk of death from any cause
  • About a 125 percent increased risk of events associated with cardiovascular disease, such as chest pain (angina) or heart attack

Air travel is very safe and mortality rates are low, as illustrated in this article from The Economist. It is a good thing though that most of us only take a couple of flights a year, with ample time in between flights. But it's not only economy class travel that is bad for health. I know people who used to be up in the air on an almost daily basis for years, flying business and first class. Unfortunately one of them is not here anymore, most probably due to DVT.

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    If I'm not away with the fairies, another way to look at aviation accident statistics is: Today, every major airline suffers from a major accident every 10 years, leading to 2,000 deaths or such per century. So any risk deemed larger than this one must lead to more than 2,000 deaths/century/major airline. I wonder if this could be already demonstrated for excessive sitting (in the current conditions and frequency of flights). Not challenging your theory, just asking. – mins Jul 17 '17 at 09:11
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    Yeah good point, looked it up and it is pretty grim, have incorporated in the answer. Thx. – Koyovis Jul 17 '17 at 09:27
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All we could say for this is that we know what historically has taken down airplanes and extrapolate from that data. This site seems to be a goldmine of data on this (http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cause.htm).

According to these guys if you are involved in a fatal accident involving traveling by commercial aircraft, of the following categories of accidents are most likely to kill you:

  • 58% Pilot/Flight Crew Error
  • 17% Mechanical Failure
  • 9% Sabatoge/Terrorism
  • 6% Weather Related
  • 10% Other Factors

These other factors are a mixed bag ranging from improper loading to bird strikes.

So in theory, the riskiest thing in a commercial aircraft are the guys or gals at the controls of the plane.

But as the odds of being killed in an commercial airplane crash are extremely slim, somewhere around 1:4,000,000, your most likely killer would simply be old age, illnesses associated with old age or heart disease from such a sedintary lifestyle.

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